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[repulsewarrior]

Talat can become a hero, he has roots here.

...I still wonder why Denktash stood with Tpap in begging Talat to delay the referendum, and i still wonder why he, Denktash, opened the gates...

Talat knows that the big stick Turkey holds is no good in a small room, The question is, both Christofias and Talat, are they up to the task of forging the tools they need to secure for themselves, this island as Cypriots.

[humanist]

I think Christofias has shown to be a true Statesman and has honoured all Cypriots in his attempts thus far to unite his people. Talat on the other hand whether unwilling or unable still continues to talk about partition and has not shown any initiative to be a vice president for all Cypriots. His attitude towards Christofias' actions to invite to the Council of Europe shows nothing but inability to be a leader.


Once again the TC's deserve what they get. They voted him in and if they want to catch up to the rest of Cyprus they need to vote him out.

I certainly don't have any confidence that the man can unify anything and I certainly don't want him representing me on any level. And yes as halil, VP and Zan have repeaetdly reminding me he is not there to represent me because I have a greek speaking heritage a true leader does not discriminate.

He will soon need to make a decision though be a slave to Turkey for another 34 years or join with Christofias to rid the Turks from Cyprus and therefore enabling all Cypriots and more specifically his community to develop and thrive in all domains of Cypriot life, econmoinc, cultural, social and political.

A united Cyprus cannot afford to have greek and Turkish speaking political parties this time they need to get it right. I certainly don't want to see future Cypriots going through another 63 and 74 because of current incompetence primarily evident on the TC side.

[repulsewarrior]

indeed, christofias gives me confidence as well, but it is early, even in setting up an infrastructure, like a secure hotline between the two.

[miltiades]

indeed, christofias gives me confidence as well, but it is early, even in setting up an infrastructure, like a secure hotline between the two.

A sharp change in tactics is imperative if the RoC is to have any chance of reuniting our island.
Mr Talat is NOT the one wielding the negotiating power as we all know , Turkey and specifically the Turkish military are the power brokers as indeed they have been since the invasion.
I have always supported direct negotiations with our T/C compatriots and indeed still do , honesty however demands that the ROC government demonstrably pursues a policy of uniting all of our people as Cypriots by removing some of the dividing elements that are a hindrance to the unification process and at the same time deflect from the real cause of our division which is the Turkish occupation of part of our nation.
There are many disconcerting voices from the T/C community , voices that are becoming acutely noticeable such as the recent "graffiti " episode , let us concentrate our efforts in "winning" the trust of our T/C compatriots in making them aware that they are an integral part of our nation , not a part of Turkey and distinctly separate from the settlers.

[repulsewarrior]

christofias won his Presidency on this Platform. his representations on the International scene have been impressive so far. with this support, and as the negociations develop toward having a credible attention, it will become most important, that as a Government, the Republic of Cyprus is involved with the daily lives of all its citizens in a manner that (whether taxpayers or not) they are satisfied with its representation, and that they have confidence it is able, in defending their Individual Rights. As communities, "Greeks" and "Turks" will maintain the desire for self-representation, while together (with all Cypriots of any Nationality (ethnic identity(origin))), under a Federal Government they are united in defending their Sovereignty as this island's stewards.

nice post dr.
...don't ask me why but twice i scrolled up to see the author, both times thinking, "humanist wrote that?"

[Viewpoint]

I think Christofias has shown to be a true Statesman and has honoured all Cypriots in his attempts thus far to unite his people. Talat on the other hand whether unwilling or unable still continues to talk about partition and has not shown any initiative to be a vice president for all Cypriots. His attitude towards Christofias' actions to invite to the Council of Europe shows nothing but inability to be a leader.


Once again the TC's deserve what they get. They voted him in and if they want to catch up to the rest of Cyprus they need to vote him out.

I certainly don't have any confidence that the man can unify anything and I certainly don't want him representing me on any level. And yes as halil, VP and Zan have repeaetdly reminding me he is not there to represent me because I have a greek speaking heritage a true leader does not discriminate.

He will soon need to make a decision though be a slave to Turkey for another 34 years or join with Christofias to rid the Turks from Cyprus and therefore enabling all Cypriots and more specifically his community to develop and thrive in all domains of Cypriot life, econmoinc, cultural, social and political.

A united Cyprus cannot afford to have greek and Turkish speaking political parties this time they need to get it right. I certainly don't want to see future Cypriots going through another 63 and 74 because of current incompetence primarily evident on the TC side.

When has President Talat or in fact any TC claimed to represent any GCs or the south? you did not elect him so how can he claim such a right. You are the ones who claim to represent the whole island including the TCs for political gain although we did not elect your leader we didn't give him any mandate to speak on our behalf. President Talat had the opportunity to put forward the position from which he is trying to negotiate and asked for equality of the 2 sides not allowing only one sides voice to be heard, he was right in everything he had to say and we support him 100%. Be careful of what you wish for a replacement for President Talat would be far worse and would not even give the GCs the time of day let alone start a negotiations process.

[michalis5354]

Christofias and Talat are both doing well and won international support too. the climate now is far different to what it had been 2 years ago when one refused to meet the other and resolve basic issue like Ledra Street and many other matters.

[Bananiot]

Despite the fact that certain difficulties were exposed last week, I too believe that it is early days yet. The next meeting is due to take place on Friday, October 10. Stylianides, a pro solution, moderate mp, suggested this morning on a radio talk show that European Union experts (technocrats) could get involved in the talks at this stage in order to point out to the two leaders how the EU functions on the matters which are now discussed. The two leaders need all the help they can get because the aim is to solve the issue once and for all. Anything short of success will spell disaster for Cyprus.

[humanist]

VP .... you keep remind me that Talat is not to represent me. I know he is not. That does not change the fact that a man who cannot see evry human being as equal is not leader.

end of story.


you have the right to vbelieve what you wish. I caccept that but I alo have my own percetpitons of what a charismatic leader is like and talat doesn't cut it. Whereas once again Christofias not has only shown he respects the TC community in absolut but that he repespects your representative. on a personal level as well as the political


He could have chosen to say screw you turk am not coming to any wedding,, he didn't. He could have said fuck you turk am the president of this nation called Cyprus and I am going to talk at PACE your not speaking he chose to be an inclussive leader for all and allowed the vice president if he chooses to become that to talk at PACE.


say what you will but you cannot change the truth

[humanist]

Garoyian 'not optimistic'

Marios Garoyian
Famagusta Gazette 04.OCT.08
The Turkish side’s positions do not leave ground for optimism regarding the outcome of the renewed efforts to reach a Cyprus settlement, President of the House of Representatives Marios Garoyian has said.

“We are not optimistic,” he said when asked about the outcome of the direct talks between the leaders of the two communities, “not because we do not want to be optimistic, but because the Turkish side does not allow us to be, due to its stance and the unreasonable positions it puts on the negotiation table." he added.

Speaking yesterday, on the sidelines of an event organised by the Nicosia Heart Patients’ Association, Garoyian said:

“We are still at the beginning of the process”, during which the issue of Governance is still being discussed.

“So far, we have not seen any signs of change in the Turkish policy."

The House President said that for that reason the Greek Cypriot side has persistently requested from the international community to exert pressure on Turkey to change its stance towards Cyprus.

“Our side has proceeded to the direct negotiations with discretion and with an argumentation that is fully consistent with both the International and the European Law," Garoyian said.

“If the Turkish side does not abandon that stance, we cannot be optimistic.”

Garoyian said the international community recognises that the Greek Cypriot side and President Christofias have acted in a constructive and essential manner and have raised positions that are consistent with the International Law, the UN resolutions and the EU principles and values.

He stressed that the Greek Cypriot side should continue being constructive during the direct talks, in order to create the preconditions that will pave the way for the solution of the Cyprus issue.

President Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat have been engaged in talks since early September, with a view to reach an agreement that will reunite Cyprus, which has been divided since 1974.

- (KYPE)