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[MicAtCyp]

The new Turkish Cypriot leader, Mr Mehmet Ali Talat, on Wednesday made statements regarding the Greek Cypriots who are trying under conditions of occupation to defend their human rights resorting to the legal means provided to them by Europe and the Republic of Cyprus.
Instead of declaring that he is working for the restoration of legality and peace with the withdrawal of the occupation army and the Turkish colonizers, Mr Talat branded the legal efforts of the Greek Cypriots as attack by President Papadopoulos.


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Do I notice that this obsession is not only on Talat but on the majority of TCs too? They think Papadopoulos can do whatever he likes? Or is he just doing what the people ask him to do?

[Main_Source]

Papadopolous can't control the indivdual efforts of his citizens exercising their legal right.

I've also seen on numerous occassion, members of the RoC stating that Turkish Cypriots should not be sued.

If Talat want to come over as the better man, why doesn't he make a gesture to stop the foreign sales of refugee land and go a little way to make Greek Cypriots who believe that nothing is done about the land problem go and eat their words, instead of saying things about Papadopolous in the media all the time.

[Piratis]

Talat has just aligned with the efforts of Turkey/US/UK to remove Papadopoulos from power and replace him with somebody that would be easier to bent by their pressure or one that can be bought.

I wouldn't be surprised if CIA tried to murder Papadopoulos.

[gabaston]

hey piratis

where d'you get that plot from?

will it really take the combined efforts of all four?

[erolz]

Papadopolous can't control the indivdual efforts of his citizens exercising their legal right.

The change in legislation in the south increasing the pentalty for using GC land prior to 74 in the North to 2 years was clearly (imo and others) done by TP / GC admin to encourage indivduals to try using EU arrest warrants to scare foreign buyers in the North. This was an act by TP and GC admin, not indivduals. It's purpose was clear. Claims that the gov of the 'RoC' have no hand in this spate of 'indivduals' attmpting to use legal actions to 'solve' (worsen) the property seem pretty weak in the face of this reality.

[Kifeas]

Papadopolous can't control the indivdual efforts of his citizens exercising their legal right.

The change in legislation in the south increasing the pentalty for using GC land prior to 74 in the North to 2 years was clearly (imo and others) done by TP / GC admin to encourage indivduals to try using EU arrest warrants to scare foreign buyers in the North. This was an act by TP and GC admin, not indivduals. It's purpose was clear. Claims that the gov of the 'RoC' have no hand in this spate of 'indivduals' attmpting to use legal actions to 'solve' (worsen) the property seem pretty weak in the face of this reality.

Erol,
Laws are enacted or changed by the parliament, not the government.
The proposal for the change (increase) of the penalty in the cases of trespassing was submitted by MP Androulla Vasilliou, wife of ex-president George Vasilliou, who belongs to an opposition party (EDY.)

Erol, in your opinion and in view of what is currently going on in the north regarding construction in GC properties, which in Kyrenia area alone has already rendered unenforceable even those unfavorable for GCs provisions of A-plan, should the GC property owners and /or the government have remained idle and apathetic and do nothing to stop or delay the situation?

[LANDJO]

Everyone, correct me if I am wrong here (I'm sure you will anyway), but, again, the perspective of an outsider:

The claim by Papandopolous that he has no part in this game is utterly ridiculous. Of course he does. Everything else has this surreal tinge that plagues most of the populist political discourse on the island...

The problem I see, apart from the fact that his agenda reinforces division (which I am sure even the most firebrand GCs will admit), are purely legal.

First, the law increasing the penalty for property violations was passed recently. In almost any kind of democratic legal framework, retroactive application is illegal; consequently, only people purchasing and occupying property from the time the law was passed could be subject to the law.

Second, for the European arrest warrant to work, the crime in question has to be punishable in the member state in question with a sentence of at least one year.

Third, a local court has to agree with the judgment of the Cypriot court. As it is relatively easy to argue that the problem is a political one, and that, pending a political solution, 'TRNC' deeds must be recognized, I doubt that a guilty verdict will ensue in any other courts than the ones in the government controlled areas.

I have not researched this in detail, but I am sure that you will be quick to point out the weaknesses of these points...

[brother]

piratis

I wouldn't be surprised if CIA tried to murder Papadopoulos.

Do you really think that they would have to do that, if they wanted to get rid of him, i am sure they could uncover some of his dodgy past and he would have to resign.

[boomerang]

Desperation and reality are finally sinking in.

Talat is only attacking Tassos because he really has run out of any excuses. Not mentioning the strings are been pulled from Turkey.

[erolz]

Erol,
Laws are enacted or changed by the parliament, not the government.
The proposal for the change (increase) of the penalty in the cases of trespassing was submitted by MP Androulla Vasilliou, wife of ex-president George Vasilliou, who belongs to an opposition party (EDY.)

My point remains however, that claims that these latest ;legal actions are nothing to do with the RoC administration and are the actions of indivduals alone are weakend by the passing of the is legislation by the RoC which was clearly (imo) desogned to encourage just such action by indivduals.

Erol, in your opinion and in view of what is currently going on in the north regarding construction in GC properties, which in Kyrenia area alone has already rendered unenforceable even those unfavorable for GCs provisions of A-plan, should the GC property owners and /or the government have remained idle and apathetic and do nothing to stop or delay the situation?

I do not think you should do nothing. I think you (and we) should agree a political settlement to a political issue. I think the suing by indivduals of indivduals and the encourgament of such by the RoC by legislation changes does nothing to help the prospects of a political solution and much to damage them.