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Didn't expect that from denizaksulu. Must be suffering from zanitis

Not sure what is meant by “Zanitis” but I’ll wager he’s got periodontitis…

[growuptcs]

denizaksulu:
with all these anti Turk statements, of mass murder rape and pillage since 1571 and all that, the GC population has done very well to proliferate. Its about time you accept us as Turkish Cypriots as described in the consitution of the Republic of Cyprus. Unless this is done you will lose a third of the island.

I thought you were more moderate than that. Unless we accept you as Turkish Cypriot, we'll lose a third of the island? Deniz, pleeeeeeeeeease stop. Your sounding like a Xerxes with no education. In 2003 no one in the international arena knew about the full problem. Now that they do, do you really think they will gift to you what we wont? Obviously you do, to keep believing like a child that they will gift it still in 2008. Your all answers and no problem solving skill, just threatning skills that no one is even flinching.

[denizaksulu]

Didn't expect that from denizaksulu. Must be suffering from zanitis

with all these anti Turk statements, of mass murder rape and pillage since 1571 and all that, the GC population has done very well to proliferate. Its about time you accept us as Turkish Cypriots as described in the consitution of the Republic of Cyprus. Unless this is done you will lose a third of the island.

Its not a matter of what we accept as Turkish Cypriots but the 1000's and 1000's of anatolians that you've accepted as Turkish Cypriots Deniz.

Who are we dealing with? Mehmet from Paphos or Mehmet from Trabzon?

You are right DT. That problem is a pain...Unsolvable unfortunately. They will be a hindrance to a peace settlement for sure.

[denizaksulu]

denizaksulu:
with all these anti Turk statements, of mass murder rape and pillage since 1571 and all that, the GC population has done very well to proliferate. Its about time you accept us as Turkish Cypriots as described in the consitution of the Republic of Cyprus. Unless this is done you will lose a third of the island.

I thought you were more moderate than that. Unless we accept you as Turkish Cypriot, we'll lose a third of the island? Deniz, pleeeeeeeeeease stop. Your sounding like a Xerxes with no education. In 2003 no one in the international arena knew about the full problem. Now that they do, do you really think they will gift to you what we wont? Obviously you do, to keep believing like a child that they will gift it still in 2008. Your all answers and no problem solving skill, just threatning skills that no one is even flinching.

Its the way I am seeing things develope. That does not change the way I feel. I am getting as frustrated with all this as you are.

[growuptcs]

deniz, believe me I'm not trying to frustrate you. I have respect for you. But it's just hard trying to hold any kind of talks with someone who sees problem solving with a forced way the way you believe in. And don't say that there's a flip side of things when the whole legal world doesn't see it your way. So you can't just forcefeed us just what you want.

[zan]

:lol: From legal state to illegal state :

‘All rights have certain limits’
By Jean Christou

CITIZENS’ rights and freedom of speech are conditional on the interests of the state, the Justice Minister and the Police Chief said yesterday.

The candid comments came after state and police closed ranks to defend the detention for three hours on Wednesday of 16 young people handing out flyers opposing the government’s stance on the Cyprus problem.

“The role of the police is to protect citizens and property from any actions outside the law and, while the Republic respects the right to dissent, the government has the right to disagree. All rights have certain limits. The public interest is what determines where you draw the line,” said Justice Minister Kypros Chrysostomides.

“So I think preventive action, and that is the role of police – to act proactively – was well done in ascertaining the identity of the people who were there.”

Police Chief Papacostas said people were entitled to “free ideas”.

“But we do not believe that this was the proper place for this,” he added.

Asked if it was up to the police to decide where people could and could not express their “free ideas”, Papacostas said that at the time officers had felt it was correct to act.

He denied accusations that Cyprus was a police state. “What the police did was a precautionary move to preserve the climate of the day of Independence,” he said.

“On Independence Day, everyone wants to go to the parade, to see what is being offered in terms of defence and not to see the parade area turned into a place of confrontation or distribution of any material.”

Amid the uproar yesterday, both Chrysostomides and Papacostas said the group had not been arrested, but only asked to accompany officers to the police station. There they were held for three hours, ostensibly to establish their identity, but more likely to keep them detained until the parade was over. They were released without charge.

European Party deputy Riccos Erotokritou, lawyer for the group, said the matter would be settled in court. He was backed by other lawmakers who said the police action was unacceptable.

Erotokritou called it “preventative arrest” and an attempt “to gag citizens”.

The 16 people, aged between 17 and 30, were approached close to the VIP platform by plainclothes officers just before the start of the parade in Nicosia at 11am.

The officers asked them to identify themselves. They refused and were hauled off to a police station and had their flyers confiscated. A lawyer who was standing by and who tried intervening to claim their legal rights for them was also taken away. He claims police physically abused him while he was arrested and detained.

The leaflet being distributed was titled “Greek Resistance Movement” and called on the public to resist the notion of a bi-communal bi-zonal federation because it would legitimise the Turkish invasion.

Erotokritou pointed out later that the flyer did not contain seditious material because it called for a “Greek wall of resistance” through all possible “legal means”

Chrysostomides said the flyers were of a political nature “with words I do not think are admissible in a civilised democratic society, but this is totally different matter,” he said without elaborating further on the content of the flyer.

“The first thing I have to say is that no arrests were made,” said Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou during his daily press briefing yesterday.

“The police had some information about the intention of certain factions to disrupt the parade. There were some people who went to the suspected site [of the disruption] and distributed leaflets. They were brought to the police station for identification and when that was established they were released.”

Only one person, who had shown strong resistance and “inappropriate behaviour to the country’s security forces” was arrested, Stefanou said.

“Nothing more, nothing less, no mass arrests, nor any attempt to gag,” he added.

“The police have the right to ask for identification and just identification,” he said when asked. “This is what they did.” He said anyone who believed he had a legitimate complaint could resort to the court.

But lawyer Erotokritou said: “The issue of the arrest of people who handled their actions peacefully, did not commit any criminal offense, nor were going to disrupt the parade created a huge legal and political issue.

“Those arrested were searched, arrested, some were put in handcuffs and they were taken to the police station and detained for three hours.”

The lawyer was almost all night in the police station, he said.

“The big political question here is the concern with the message that anyone who disagrees with the established perceptions, especially on the Cyprus issue, will be arrested,” Erotokritou added.

Such behaviour could not be accepted in a modern European Cyprus and belonged in another era and another culture, he said.

He said President Demetris Christofias would do well to remember that freedom meant freedom, even to the person who thinks differently.

Opposition DISY and socialist EDEK also criticised the police action. EDEK leader Yiannakis Omirou said the rule of law was non negotiable.

DISY leader Nicos Anastassiades said even though the content of the leaflet might be disagreeable, all the police had done was highlight its existence.

“I think we are a democracy so tolerance to the opposite view should be exercised,” he said.




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

China cleared all the poor off the streets for the Olympics............The "RoC" cannot have their real intentions on show either.....Nice!!!!!!!!

[Viewpoint]

denizaksulu:
with all these anti Turk statements, of mass murder rape and pillage since 1571 and all that, the GC population has done very well to proliferate. Its about time you accept us as Turkish Cypriots as described in the consitution of the Republic of Cyprus. Unless this is done you will lose a third of the island.

I thought you were more moderate than that. Unless we accept you as Turkish Cypriot, we'll lose a third of the island? Deniz, pleeeeeeeeeease stop. Your sounding like a Xerxes with no education. In 2003 no one in the international arena knew about the full problem. Now that they do, do you really think they will gift to you what we wont? Obviously you do, to keep believing like a child that they will gift it still in 2008. Your all answers and no problem solving skill, just threatning skills that no one is even flinching.

We are willing to wait....nothing stays the same and who knows what the future holds, we are willing to take that risk are you?

[Mikiko]

why are the people in this island can't live in peace and be quiet??? Why are they so fussy for no reason?????

Welcome to the forum Mikiko (sounds Nippon), but its best to read up on Cyprus before making such a statement. You will open yourself to attack for your ignorance. You say 'in this island', and you still know nothing?

I dont believe it.

Have a lovely time.

thank you Deniz and you make lots of sense here. they are all politicians here ! Dont they have politicians to sort things out!

[Oracle]

why are the people in this island can't live in peace and be quiet??? Why are they so fussy for no reason?????

Welcome to the forum Mikiko (sounds Nippon), but its best to read up on Cyprus before making such a statement. You will open yourself to attack for your ignorance. You say 'in this island', and you still know nothing?

I dont believe it.

Have a lovely time.

thank you Deniz and you make lots of sense here. they are all politicians here ! Dont they have politicians to sort things out!

Do you play tennis Mikiko?

I do! I love it.

There are professional tennis players of course ... I could leave it to them to play.

But no! ... I'm entitled to whack a few balls too .......

[miltiades]

why are the people in this island can't live in peace and be quiet??? Why are they so fussy for no reason?????

Welcome to the forum Mikiko (sounds Nippon), but its best to read up on Cyprus before making such a statement. You will open yourself to attack for your ignorance. You say 'in this island', and you still know nothing?

I dont believe it.

Have a lovely time.

thank you Deniz and you make lots of sense here. they are all politicians here ! Dont they have politicians to sort things out!

Do you play tennis Mikiko?

I do! I love it.

There are professional tennis players of course ... I could leave it to them to play.

But no! ... I'm entitled to whack a few balls too .......

Of course you are provided you dont smash a few windows in the process !!