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This is a better view. The centre piece is the praying quarters (masjid) for the camel drivers.

Looks awfully much like a Monastery to me ....

The design is obviously Ottoman, which derived from the Seldjukids and the Turkic Sultanates in central Asia (but not Mongolia)

No not quite Ottoman .... here is an example of very early similar architecture (two-tier).




Immediately after the Oecumenical Council of Reconciliation summoned in Serdica in 343 AD, the construction of many new cult building started in the whole of Thrace, among which such of worshipping the memory of martyrs who died for the establishment of the Christianity. One of the most remarkable architectural masterpieces of that early period was the so-called Red Church. Today its ruins stand right in the middle of a field, about 15 km southwest of Plovdiv, near the small town of Perushtitza. Some of the church ruins are quite high, so exact reconstruction of what it used to be like could be easily done. The central and highest part of the church is the four-semi-domed hall, whose huge dome is highly erected. The building?s symmetry is cut by the two additional sections to the north and south ? the northern section had a pool covered with pink marble. This where the christening took place, before the newly baptized Christian could walk into the inside section of the church. The very place where the church was erected was not haphazardly chosen ? the Red Church was deliberately and strategically built close to an existing pagan sanctuary, located in the vicinity of such a huge and rich city as Philippopolis, very near the key roads leading from Thrace to the White Sea and from Constantinople to Western Europe. Most probably its place had been connected to the popular at that time Christian cult to the martyrs ? here must have been kept the relics of some eminent martyr who had died fighting for the establishment of Christianity in these lands. Later on, the initial building was reorganized into a church, while its martyral functions were transferred to the large chapel situated south of the big doorway. It is obvious that once it used to be an imposing in its size church, having elaborately decorated walls and beautiful mosaic floors ? an especially beautiful church, estimated today as one of the masterpieces of early-Christian architecture in Europe. What is most impressive to all the specialists in Ancient and Byzantine Art and Architecture is the beauty of the wall paintings. They place the Red Church side by side with the best samples of the early-Christian paining kept in the Ravena Basilicas (6th-7th century), the Sinai Monasteries (6th-7th century), the St.Dimiter (St.James) Church in Thessaloniki (7th-8th century), and the unique St.Sofia in Istanbul (6th century).
By: Nikolay Sirakov

The two levels with arches seen here too (Nave of San Lorenzo) ... probably 6th Century Roman:

[denizaksulu]

I know! My friend lives in one. Theres even a plaque above her door that tells of the year the house was built.

The streets have been renovated too and they look even better now...well at least her street does. Loads of Hataylis there but she seems to be happy with her neighbours. Then again they're somewhat modern, unlike the vast majority.

En muhimi de zaten komsularla gecinmek.

[denizaksulu]

This is a better view. The centre piece is the praying quarters (masjid) for the camel drivers.

Looks awfully much like a Monastery to me ....

The design is obviously Ottoman, which derived from the Seldjukids and the Turkic Sultanates in central Asia (but not Mongolia)

No not quite Ottoman .... here is an example of very early similar architecture (two-tier).




Immediately after the Oecumenical Council of Reconciliation summoned in Serdica in 343 AD, the construction of many new cult building started in the whole of Thrace, among which such of worshipping the memory of martyrs who died for the establishment of the Christianity. One of the most remarkable architectural masterpieces of that early period was the so-called Red Church. Today its ruins stand right in the middle of a field, about 15 km southwest of Plovdiv, near the small town of Perushtitza. Some of the church ruins are quite high, so exact reconstruction of what it used to be like could be easily done. The central and highest part of the church is the four-semi-domed hall, whose huge dome is highly erected. The building?s symmetry is cut by the two additional sections to the north and south ? the northern section had a pool covered with pink marble. This where the christening took place, before the newly baptized Christian could walk into the inside section of the church. The very place where the church was erected was not haphazardly chosen ? the Red Church was deliberately and strategically built close to an existing pagan sanctuary, located in the vicinity of such a huge and rich city as Philippopolis, very near the key roads leading from Thrace to the White Sea and from Constantinople to Western Europe. Most probably its place had been connected to the popular at that time Christian cult to the martyrs ? here must have been kept the relics of some eminent martyr who had died fighting for the establishment of Christianity in these lands. Later on, the initial building was reorganized into a church, while its martyral functions were transferred to the large chapel situated south of the big doorway. It is obvious that once it used to be an imposing in its size church, having elaborately decorated walls and beautiful mosaic floors ? an especially beautiful church, estimated today as one of the masterpieces of early-Christian architecture in Europe. What is most impressive to all the specialists in Ancient and Byzantine Art and Architecture is the beauty of the wall paintings. They place the Red Church side by side with the best samples of the early-Christian paining kept in the Ravena Basilicas (6th-7th century), the Sinai Monasteries (6th-7th century), the St.Dimiter (St.James) Church in Thessaloniki (7th-8th century), and the unique St.Sofia in Istanbul (6th century).
By: Nikolay Sirakov

The two levels with arches seen here too (Nave of San Lorenzo) ... probably 6th Century Roman:

Very predictable. I was saying the ones I have seen and not the ones you can dig up.

The central Asian Turkic Republics must have kidnapped Latin architects from Europe to build their Caravan sarais in Semerkand, Yarkand etc.

Thanks anyway for the pictures. You are a fighter arent you?

[T_C]

I know! My friend lives in one. Theres even a plaque above her door that tells of the year the house was built.

The streets have been renovated too and they look even better now...well at least her street does. Loads of Hataylis there but she seems to be happy with her neighbours. Then again they're somewhat modern, unlike the vast majority.

En muhimi de zaten komsularla gecinmek.

Eh yani...

[denizaksulu]

It doesnt matter what clothes you wear or how educated you are...........

[Oracle]

This is a better view. The centre piece is the praying quarters (masjid) for the camel drivers.

Looks awfully much like a Monastery to me ....

The design is obviously Ottoman, which derived from the Seldjukids and the Turkic Sultanates in central Asia (but not Mongolia)

No not quite Ottoman .... here is an example of very early similar architecture (two-tier).




Immediately after the Oecumenical Council of Reconciliation summoned in Serdica in 343 AD, the construction of many new cult building started in the whole of Thrace, among which such of worshipping the memory of martyrs who died for the establishment of the Christianity. One of the most remarkable architectural masterpieces of that early period was the so-called Red Church. Today its ruins stand right in the middle of a field, about 15 km southwest of Plovdiv, near the small town of Perushtitza. Some of the church ruins are quite high, so exact reconstruction of what it used to be like could be easily done. The central and highest part of the church is the four-semi-domed hall, whose huge dome is highly erected. The building?s symmetry is cut by the two additional sections to the north and south ? the northern section had a pool covered with pink marble. This where the christening took place, before the newly baptized Christian could walk into the inside section of the church. The very place where the church was erected was not haphazardly chosen ? the Red Church was deliberately and strategically built close to an existing pagan sanctuary, located in the vicinity of such a huge and rich city as Philippopolis, very near the key roads leading from Thrace to the White Sea and from Constantinople to Western Europe. Most probably its place had been connected to the popular at that time Christian cult to the martyrs ? here must have been kept the relics of some eminent martyr who had died fighting for the establishment of Christianity in these lands. Later on, the initial building was reorganized into a church, while its martyral functions were transferred to the large chapel situated south of the big doorway. It is obvious that once it used to be an imposing in its size church, having elaborately decorated walls and beautiful mosaic floors ? an especially beautiful church, estimated today as one of the masterpieces of early-Christian architecture in Europe. What is most impressive to all the specialists in Ancient and Byzantine Art and Architecture is the beauty of the wall paintings. They place the Red Church side by side with the best samples of the early-Christian paining kept in the Ravena Basilicas (6th-7th century), the Sinai Monasteries (6th-7th century), the St.Dimiter (St.James) Church in Thessaloniki (7th-8th century), and the unique St.Sofia in Istanbul (6th century).
By: Nikolay Sirakov

The two levels with arches seen here too (Nave of San Lorenzo) ... probably 6th Century Roman:

Very predictable. I was saying the ones I have seen and not the ones you can dig up.

The central Asian Turkic Republics must have kidnapped Latin architects from Europe to build their Caravan sarais in Semerkand, Yarkand etc.

Thanks anyway for the pictures. You are a fighter arent you?

Credit where credit's due Deniz. The architectural style was around long before the Ottomans.

There are of course many later examples of Monasteries with such cloisters and courtyards and the two levels (fun looking, so thanks) .... but must do some work now.

[denizaksulu]

This is a better view. The centre piece is the praying quarters (masjid) for the camel drivers.

Looks awfully much like a Monastery to me ....

The design is obviously Ottoman, which derived from the Seldjukids and the Turkic Sultanates in central Asia (but not Mongolia)

No not quite Ottoman .... here is an example of very early similar architecture (two-tier).




Immediately after the Oecumenical Council of Reconciliation summoned in Serdica in 343 AD, the construction of many new cult building started in the whole of Thrace, among which such of worshipping the memory of martyrs who died for the establishment of the Christianity. One of the most remarkable architectural masterpieces of that early period was the so-called Red Church. Today its ruins stand right in the middle of a field, about 15 km southwest of Plovdiv, near the small town of Perushtitza. Some of the church ruins are quite high, so exact reconstruction of what it used to be like could be easily done. The central and highest part of the church is the four-semi-domed hall, whose huge dome is highly erected. The building?s symmetry is cut by the two additional sections to the north and south ? the northern section had a pool covered with pink marble. This where the christening took place, before the newly baptized Christian could walk into the inside section of the church. The very place where the church was erected was not haphazardly chosen ? the Red Church was deliberately and strategically built close to an existing pagan sanctuary, located in the vicinity of such a huge and rich city as Philippopolis, very near the key roads leading from Thrace to the White Sea and from Constantinople to Western Europe. Most probably its place had been connected to the popular at that time Christian cult to the martyrs ? here must have been kept the relics of some eminent martyr who had died fighting for the establishment of Christianity in these lands. Later on, the initial building was reorganized into a church, while its martyral functions were transferred to the large chapel situated south of the big doorway. It is obvious that once it used to be an imposing in its size church, having elaborately decorated walls and beautiful mosaic floors ? an especially beautiful church, estimated today as one of the masterpieces of early-Christian architecture in Europe. What is most impressive to all the specialists in Ancient and Byzantine Art and Architecture is the beauty of the wall paintings. They place the Red Church side by side with the best samples of the early-Christian paining kept in the Ravena Basilicas (6th-7th century), the Sinai Monasteries (6th-7th century), the St.Dimiter (St.James) Church in Thessaloniki (7th-8th century), and the unique St.Sofia in Istanbul (6th century).
By: Nikolay Sirakov

The two levels with arches seen here too (Nave of San Lorenzo) ... probably 6th Century Roman:

Very predictable. I was saying the ones I have seen and not the ones you can dig up.

The central Asian Turkic Republics must have kidnapped Latin architects from Europe to build their Caravan sarais in Semerkand, Yarkand etc.

Thanks anyway for the pictures. You are a fighter arent you?

Credit where credit's due Deniz. The architectural style was around long before the Ottomans.

There are of course many later examples of Monasteries with such cloisters and courtyards and the two levels (fun looking, so thanks) .... but must do some work now.

I clearly did not say the Ottomans created the style. The clue was in the Saldjuks and the Central Asian Turkic khanates.

[T_C]

It doesnt matter what clothes you wear or how educated you are...........

I agree...

BUT, when theres so many people from another country in your country and when people coming on holiday to your country think it's their country and that they're Cypriots, then we really do have a problem.

It's not just a matter of not liking what they wear...as a matter of fact I really like what they wear...the modern muslims around there are suprisingly chic.

I don't get how people don't understand this (not talking about you deniz).
The TC nationalists are so naive that they think this is OK. Had it been the other way round the Turks would be worse than the TCs...the Turks don't even like us using our dialect in our own country, let alone if we were to make them a minority in their own country....

[denizaksulu]

It doesnt matter what clothes you wear or how educated you are...........

I agree...

BUT, when theres so many people from another country in your country and when people coming on holiday to your country think it's their country and that they're Cypriots, then we really do have a problem.

It's not just a matter of not liking what they wear...as a matter of fact I really like what they wear...the modern muslims around there are suprisingly chic.

I don't get how people don't understand this (not talking about you deniz).
The TC nationalists are so naive that they think this is OK. Had it been the other way round the Turks would be worse than the TCs...the Turks don't even like us using our dialect in our own country, let alone if we were to make them a minority in their own country....

That is exactly what I am saying TC - at least I think I am.

[denizaksulu]

This is a better view. The centre piece is the praying quarters (masjid) for the camel drivers.

Looks awfully much like a Monastery to me ....

The design is obviously Ottoman, which derived from the Seldjukids and the Turkic Sultanates in central Asia (but not Mongolia)

No not quite Ottoman .... here is an example of very early similar architecture (two-tier).




Immediately after the Oecumenical Council of Reconciliation summoned in Serdica in 343 AD, the construction of many new cult building started in the whole of Thrace, among which such of worshipping the memory of martyrs who died for the establishment of the Christianity. One of the most remarkable architectural masterpieces of that early period was the so-called Red Church. Today its ruins stand right in the middle of a field, about 15 km southwest of Plovdiv, near the small town of Perushtitza. Some of the church ruins are quite high, so exact reconstruction of what it used to be like could be easily done. The central and highest part of the church is the four-semi-domed hall, whose huge dome is highly erected. The building?s symmetry is cut by the two additional sections to the north and south ? the northern section had a pool covered with pink marble. This where the christening took place, before the newly baptized Christian could walk into the inside section of the church. The very place where the church was erected was not haphazardly chosen ? the Red Church was deliberately and strategically built close to an existing pagan sanctuary, located in the vicinity of such a huge and rich city as Philippopolis, very near the key roads leading from Thrace to the White Sea and from Constantinople to Western Europe. Most probably its place had been connected to the popular at that time Christian cult to the martyrs ? here must have been kept the relics of some eminent martyr who had died fighting for the establishment of Christianity in these lands. Later on, the initial building was reorganized into a church, while its martyral functions were transferred to the large chapel situated south of the big doorway. It is obvious that once it used to be an imposing in its size church, having elaborately decorated walls and beautiful mosaic floors ? an especially beautiful church, estimated today as one of the masterpieces of early-Christian architecture in Europe. What is most impressive to all the specialists in Ancient and Byzantine Art and Architecture is the beauty of the wall paintings. They place the Red Church side by side with the best samples of the early-Christian paining kept in the Ravena Basilicas (6th-7th century), the Sinai Monasteries (6th-7th century), the St.Dimiter (St.James) Church in Thessaloniki (7th-8th century), and the unique St.Sofia in Istanbul (6th century).
By: Nikolay Sirakov

The two levels with arches seen here too (Nave of San Lorenzo) ... probably 6th Century Roman:

Very predictable. I was saying the ones I have seen and not the ones you can dig up.

The central Asian Turkic Republics must have kidnapped Latin architects from Europe to build their Caravan sarais in Semerkand, Yarkand etc.

Thanks anyway for the pictures. You are a fighter arent you?

Credit where credit's due Deniz. The architectural style was around long before the Ottomans.

There are of course many later examples of Monasteries with such cloisters and courtyards and the two levels (fun looking, so thanks) .... but must do some work now.

Here are some Caravansarays in Turkey. Most predate the Ottomans. The style was brought over from Central Asia. Sorry the dialogue is in Turkish. If I had time I would search for more examples, but if you are interested you are better at digging out 'info'.


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