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[denizaksulu]

I dont know whay the fuss is about anymore. Some people are happy with this situation.

In the summer 198, I too was 'arrested' and was being frogged marched to the Turkish Army camp near Kormacit. My crime was taking pictures of the beautiful pine trees with a bright blue sky background of an area I had never visited before.
I was siezed by two Turkish soldiers who asked me if I had not seen the warning sign. I asked where the sign was. He showed me a rusty old sign covered in rust and probably peppered by locals with their shot guns. If it was not the for the lengthy intervention of the muhktar of the village, I am sure I would have had a 'lovely' reception. It was a while in the midday heat before he managed to convince the army that I was HIS guest. On the way back (eventually) I saw no military installations at all in the vicinity of that village. It had a new Turkish name which I do not remember. No one knew the Original name.

This is the Cyprus I love, but not like this. Idiots.

[zan]

I dont know whay the fuss is about anymore. Some people are happy with this situation.

In the summer 198, I too was 'arrested' and was being frogged marched to the Turkish Army camp near Kormacit. My crime was taking pictures of the beautiful pine trees with a bright blue sky background of an area I had never visited before.
I was siezed by two Turkish soldiers who asked me if I had not seen the warning sign. I asked where the sign was. He showed me a rusty old sign covered in rust and probably peppered by locals with their shot guns. If it was not the for the lengthy intervention of the muhktar of the village, I am sure I would have had a 'lovely' reception. It was a while in the midday heat before he managed to convince the army that I was HIS guest. On the way back (eventually) I saw no military installations at all in the vicinity of that village. It had a new Turkish name which I do not remember. No one knew the Original name.

This is the Cyprus I love, but not like this. Idiots.

No one is happy with the situation Deniz....The point is we have no real choices. Tension dictates and stupid decisions like this are taken...I am not making excuses..They just should not happen.

[BirKibrisli]

I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this?????

[zan]

I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this?????

I don't know the exact figure but what I saw was quite a lot. I have no idea why so much but it seemed excessive to me.

[denizaksulu]

I dont know whay the fuss is about anymore. Some people are happy with this situation.

In the summer 198, I too was 'arrested' and was being frogged marched to the Turkish Army camp near Kormacit. My crime was taking pictures of the beautiful pine trees with a bright blue sky background of an area I had never visited before.
I was siezed by two Turkish soldiers who asked me if I had not seen the warning sign. I asked where the sign was. He showed me a rusty old sign covered in rust and probably peppered by locals with their shot guns. If it was not the for the lengthy intervention of the muhktar of the village, I am sure I would have had a 'lovely' reception. It was a while in the midday heat before he managed to convince the army that I was HIS guest. On the way back (eventually) I saw no military installations at all in the vicinity of that village. It had a new Turkish name which I do not remember. No one knew the Original name.

This is the Cyprus I love, but not like this. Idiots.

No one is happy with the situation Deniz....The point is we have no real choices. Tension dictates and stupid decisions like this are taken...I am not making excuses..They just should not happen.

Ok Zan. Then we should open our mouths and let them know who the country belongs to and not let them ride roughshod all over us.

[zan]

I dont know whay the fuss is about anymore. Some people are happy with this situation.

In the summer 198, I too was 'arrested' and was being frogged marched to the Turkish Army camp near Kormacit. My crime was taking pictures of the beautiful pine trees with a bright blue sky background of an area I had never visited before.
I was siezed by two Turkish soldiers who asked me if I had not seen the warning sign. I asked where the sign was. He showed me a rusty old sign covered in rust and probably peppered by locals with their shot guns. If it was not the for the lengthy intervention of the muhktar of the village, I am sure I would have had a 'lovely' reception. It was a while in the midday heat before he managed to convince the army that I was HIS guest. On the way back (eventually) I saw no military installations at all in the vicinity of that village. It had a new Turkish name which I do not remember. No one knew the Original name.

This is the Cyprus I love, but not like this. Idiots.

No one is happy with the situation Deniz....The point is we have no real choices. Tension dictates and stupid decisions like this are taken...I am not making excuses..They just should not happen.

Ok Zan. Then we should open our mouths and let them know who the country belongs to and not let them ride roughshod all over us.

I think they are getting the message....albeit slowly!!

[tessintrnc]

I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this?????

I don't know the figures BirKibrisli, but I do know that most of my TC friends think that they have too much and mostly prime land too! The centre of Kyrenia, the main road to lapta, sea-side areas etc etc. we went fishing last year and were shouted at by a soldier - we were apparantly near a Generals house, and my partner shouted back "its our country and our beaches"!!!! Things will change, maybe slowly - but I am sure that they will.

[DT.]

I heard that 40% of the trnc is military area and, hence, off limits to everyone else....Can anyone confirm this?????

I don't know the figures BirKibrisli, but I do know that most of my TC friends think that they have too much and mostly prime land too! The centre of Kyrenia, the main road to lapta, sea-side areas etc etc. we went fishing last year and were shouted at by a soldier - we were apparantly near a Generals house, and my partner shouted back "its our country and our beaches"!!!! Things will change, maybe slowly - but I am sure that they will.

Why the shock? The area of northern Cyprus is under millitary occupation. You civilians are secondary to this.

[Nikitas]

You people realising what you are describing? A place where 40 per cent of the land is held by an invading army, where the general's gofer can shout you to move away as if you were a stray dog and this is supposed to be freedom! It sounds feudal.

I cannot but contrast this with mainland Greece. There is a resort for army officers near Athens. The beach front of the resort is open to the public and no one can move you off the beach. Guards are posted on the land side but have no right to arrest, instruct or in any way interfere with civilians.

As for Cyprus, I know army officers have a club, and that is it. No private beaches, no luxury residences and definitely no moving people away from the vicinity of "herr general's" house.

[BirKibrisli]

Thanks to Zan and Tess for the information...

It is not surprising to me,because the Turkish Army is a law upon itself in Turkey even...I can imagine things would be worse in Cyprus....But they are shooting themselves in the foot,so to speak...Turkish Cypriots are not used to worshipping the military...Lets hope there are enough real TCs left to make an impact on the Military eventually...The latest report I heard of the number of settlers puts them around 300,000 as a conservative estimate...Cyprus need a solution fast...For the sake of all Cypriots,GC and TC alike...