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[Nikitas]

Greek place names like Lefkoniko and Ammochostos are spelled wrongly too. So lighten up folks!

[BirKibrisli]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

[denizaksulu]

Its up to us as individuals to make an effort to learn each others alphabet at least, understand the phonetics of a language. There is a big difference in a phonetic language and a language where diphtongs ose used profusely. Try and adapt as we are a long way away from a universal language and alphabet. Its what makes each language group interesting.

[zan]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

I too would like to thank these people for their bravery.....Without such instances and Turkey coming to our aid, we would have been wiped off the face the earth long ago......

[Oracle]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

I too would like to thank these people for their bravery.....Without such instances and Turkey coming to our aid, we would have been wiped off the face the earth long ago......

But somehow you have managed to increase to 80 Million and growing faster than most other populations .... Perhaps your "fears" are unfounded and reality speaks a different story.

[zan]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

I too would like to thank these people for their bravery.....Without such instances and Turkey coming to our aid, we would have been wiped off the face the earth long ago......

But somehow you have managed to increase to 80 Million and growing faster than most other populations .... Perhaps your "fears" are unfounded and reality speaks a different story.

80,000,000 Brothers is a comfort I know but MY home is still under threat by 20 or so million of you.......I just sent a shiver down my spine......

[EPSILON]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

I too would like to thank these people for their bravery.....Without such instances and Turkey coming to our aid, we would have been wiped off the face the earth long ago......

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Yes Zan, you are absolutely right. And the problem is that your faith remain the same. You know, there is no difference of being a shelter of 1974 or 1578. You are the same thing. You have a home land , Turkey, you can find rest there. We born here in the island (GREECE never occupied Cyprus) -this is our difference. You are Turks of Cyprus and we are Cypriots - Greeks. Big difference.

[EPSILON]

Η άλλη πλευρά της ιστορίας...

Συγκλονιστική ήταν η ιστορία δύο πρώην αιχμαλώτων της Κυπριακής τραγωδίας του 1974, ενός Ελληνοκύπριου, του Χρίστου Κυπριανού 70 ετών σήμερα από το Λευκόνοικο και τώρα στη Λάρνακα και ενός Τουρκοκύπριου, του Αχμέτ Γιωργατζέ 51 ετών σήμερα από το Τζάος και τώρα στη κατεχόμενη Αμμόχωστο. Συναντήθηκαν για δεύτερη φορά στη Λάρνακα, τις τελευταίες 15 ημέρες, αυτή την φορά στο εστιατόριο «ΕΝΑΛΙΑ» το οποίο διαχειρίζεται η κόρη του Κυπριανού και τα ξαναθυμήθηκαν όλα από την αρχή. Η πρώτη συνάντηση στη Λάρνακα πριν 15 ημέρες έγινε με πρωτοβουλία της γνωστής Τ/Κ δημοσιογράφου Sevgul Uludag και συμφώνησαν να ξανασυναντηθούν και σήμερα όπως και έγινε. Ο Αχμέτ ήταν 17 ½ ετών στις 15 Ιουλίου 1974 και εργαζότανε σαν οικοδόμος στη Λευκωσία. Φυγαδεύτηκε όμως από τον 36χρονο Κυπριανού και άλλους στη κατεχόμενη Λευκωσία και μετά την δεύτερη φάση της Τουρκικής εισβολής, πήγε στο χωριό του το Τζάος. Εκεί δεν ξέχασε ποτέ την βοήθεια του Κυπριανού. Έτσι όταν στις 17 Αυγούστου 1974 ο Κυπριανού πιάστηκε αιχμάλωτος στο Λευκόνοικο και τον μετέφερναν για εκτέλεση στο Τζάος, βρέθηκε από μηχανής Θεός ο 17χρονος Αχμέτ και τον γλίτωσε. «Με φοάσε μάστρε Χρίστο είπα τους ότι εν είσαι στρατιώτης». Έτσι ο Κυπριανού γλίτωσε την ζωή του, χάρις στο έφηβο τότε, Αχμέτ. Όταν απελευθερώθηκε από την αιχμαλωσία εγκαταστάθηκε στη Λάρνακα. Απέκτησε οικογένεια και τώρα είναι συνταξιούχος οικοδόμος. Ο Αχμέτ εγκαταστάθηκε στη Αμμόχωστο. Όταν άνοιξαν τα οδοφράγματα πριν πέντε χρόνια το πρώτο πράγμα που έκανε ήταν να αναζητήσει τον Κυπριανού, αλλά στη Λευκωσία εφόσον εκεί εργαζόντουσαν το 1974. Μετά από προσπάθειες 3 ημερών απογοητεύτηκε, μάλλον νόμισε ότι ο Κυπριανού δεν την γλύτωσε. Εκτός από την Sevgul Uludag η οποία ανέλαβε να τον βοηθήσει. Και τα κατάφεραν να εντοπίσουν τον Κυπριανού στη Λάρνακα πριν 15 ημέρες. Τα δάκρια δεν σταματούσαν λεπτό από τα μάτια του Κυπριανού ενώ διηγείτο στους παριστάμενους στο ΕΝΑΛΙΑ ,το Σάββατο και την Κυριακή, την ιστορία. Ο Αχμέτ κοιτούσε δεξιά και αριστερά -εφ όσον δεν γνώριζε Ελληνικά- και άκουγε τις μεταφράσεις που του έκαναν. Υποσχέθηκαν ό ένας στο άλλο ότι θα ξανασυναντηθούν.
http://www.phileleftheros.com/main/main ... &id=580619

The other side of history…

Shocking was the history of two former captives of Cypriot tragedy 1974, Greekcypriot, Christos Kyprianou of 70 years today from Leykonoiko and now in the Larnaca and the Turkishcypriot, Achmet Giorgatze of 51 years today from Tzaos and now in possessed Ammochosto. They met for second time in the Larnaca, the last 15 days, this time in the restaurant “ENALIA” which manages the girl of Kyprianou and they remembered all from the start. The first meeting in the Larnaca before 15 days became with initiative of the known journalist Sevgul Uludag and they agreed to meet today as it as well. Achmet was 17 ½ of years on 15 July 1974 and worked as builder in Nicosia. He's been rescued however from the 36 year old Kyprianou and other in possessed Nicosia and afterwards the second phase of Turkish invasion, he went to his village Tzaos. There he never forget the help of Kyprianou.
Thus when on 17 August 1974 Kyprianou was caught captive in Leykonoiko by turkish army and transfered to Tzaos for execusion, he was found by the 17 year old Achmet and he was saved. “Don't be afraid mastre Christos, I told the soldiers that you are not a soldier”. Thus Kyprianou saved his life, thanks to the young then, Achmet. When he was released from the captivity he moved to Larnaca. He made a family and is pensioner builder. Achmet is now in Ammochosto. When opened the barricades before five years the first thing he did was to seek Kyprianou, but in Nicosia provided that there they worked in 1974. After efforts of 3 days it was disappointed, rather believed that Kyprianou was not saved from the turksih army. Apart from Sevgul Uludag who undertook helped him. And him accomplished they locate Kyprianou in the Larnaca before 15 days. Tears did not stop from the eyes of Kyprianou while he was telling his story. Achmet who does not know Greek and heard the translations that made for him. They promised to meet again.

Well , if the picture is real, i sign and approved union with Turkey today.

[zan]

Yes,lets concentrate on the spirit of the thread...
I can testify to an event which happened in my village in early 1964...I was not there but my grandfather told me later...Some GC irregulars from Polis tried to attack the cluster of TC villages at the skirt of the Paphos mountains...People from the neighbouring GC villages gathered their shotguns and stopped the would be murderers in their tracks...
"You will have to kills us first," they said..."we have lived like brothers in these parts for centuries,noone is going to change that..."

Many similar stories happened all over Cyprus,but unfortunately most people choose to concentrate on the isolated incidents of massacres...

I too would like to thank these people for their bravery.....Without such instances and Turkey coming to our aid, we would have been wiped off the face the earth long ago......

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Yes Zan, you are absolutely right. And the problem is that your faith remain the same. You know, there is no difference of being a shelter of 1974 or 1578. You are the same thing. You have a home land , Turkey, you can find rest there. We born here in the island (GREECE never occupied Cyprus) -this is our difference. You are Turks of Cyprus and we are Cypriots - Greeks. Big difference.

Do you have any idea what you are saying???? The fact that Greece did occupy the island is one thing but lets say for one minute you are right......You keep telling us that we are under siege from Turkey so we can safely say, in your eyes, we are the victims.......What are you then? You colluded with Greece to take over our CYPRUS and then you would have been Greek only not Cypriot.....So who has the bigger crime........