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Christofias accused of psychological warfare

Postby zan » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:27 am


By Jean Christou
INSULTS continued to fly between the two sides yesterday fewer then two weeks before the leaders are to meet again.

President Demetris Christofias, during a policy speech he gave to Greek and Cypriot organisations in New York, said he had tried to make an honest attempt to persuade Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat to join with him in speaking a common language.

“But the behaviour of the occupying forces and sometimes the conduct of Mr Talat is a challenge to our feelings and emotions,” he said.

“And because we often operate with emotion first and then the logic, we must reverse this,” he added.

Christofias did not elaborate further on that aspect but it was not the first time he has made statements about Talat’s attitude at the talks.

He has accused Talat in recent weeks of saying one thing inside the talks and another when he emerges.

Meanwhile accusations have also continued to flow from north to south. Talat was quoted yesterday accusing Christofias of psychological warfare.

“Their (Greek Cypriot) aims are obvious. They are trying to stir up troubles between me and my people. However, they will not succeed on this,” Talat said.

The Turkish Cypriot leader said he had asked Christofias to explain what he meant by the accusations of differing statements inside and outside the talks.

He said it was obvious Christofias was trying to discredit him in the eyes of the Turkish Cypriots, and to make Talat appear unreliable in the eyes of the international community.

“This is a more dangerous game than the one played by Papadooulos,” said Talat, adding that if this continues, he doesn’t know how the Cyprus problem will ever be solved.

The leaders are due to meet again on October 10. Christofias returns to the island today after his New York trip to attend the UN General Assembly.

On Friday night he managed to pass a few words with Turkish President Abdullah Gul on the sidelines of the assembly.

Christofias said he had asked Gul to assist in finding a settlement.

“It was a good conversation,” said Christofias. “He (Gul) said that he backs the negotiations but of course this is not enough. We need positive moves from Turkey in order to create the conditions for the final solution of the problem. If we really want a solution, the solution must be based on this reality, I mean on the reality of the existence of the Republic of Cyprus and the evolution of this Republic into a bizonal, bicommunal federal state,” the Cypriot President said.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008




The games go on with the "RoC" and Tpap leading the way behind Christofias........When the big guns go silent then you know what is coming......The plotting scheming and the trickery will not go unnoticed Mr Christofias.....Many satellites are focused on you and the UN, the world and most importantly, the TCs have had enough of tricks and double talk....President Talat is speaking our language now...You would be wise to listen and throw that dog Tpap out into the streets.... :evil:

I mean...The guy can't even keep to his word...He asks the Un to butt out and leave it to Cypriots and then asks Turkey to come in so he can blame them instead....I do hope you are watching UN.....You let us down big time in 1964....... :evil:
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:54 am

The only trouble Zan, is that, while Christofias wants a solution based on True Federation, True Democracy and basic Human Rights for all Cypriots, Talat on the other hand, wants the opposite as you and VP seems to be. Talat should stop listening to NeoPartitionist and join rest of the Europeans, or else, he has nothing to offer to a solution or to the TC's, because the EU will not accept his demands, and neither would Christofias..
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:00 am

Kikapu wrote:The only trouble Zan, is that, while Christofias wants a solution based on True Federation, True Democracy and basic Human Rights for all Cypriots, Talat on the other hand, wants the opposite as you and VP seems to be. Talat should stop listening to NeoPartitionist and join rest of the Europeans, or else, he has nothing to offer to a solution or to the TC's, because the EU will not accept his demands, and neither would Christofias..


We have already been through this fictitious "True Democracy" that you keep trying to hit us on the head with Kikapu. Your kind of democracy stinks to put it blindly. You accept the undemocratic rights in the EU as a country but want to dismiss it elsewhere when it suits you. When you accept the democracy of the Zurich agreement and let us vote in the way our rights were signed to there, instead of supporting the fact that those rights were taken from us by force hen I will accept that you really are a believer in democracy and not the hypocrite that you seem to be. If on the other hand you believe that might is right and let them get away with it then all I can say to you is we had the might in 1974...Live with that......You seem to want it both ways and we are telling you, you can't....
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Postby humanist » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:07 am

I see talat has been on pot again. Thre is no one stiring shit between him and his people exept his rullers Gul and his armies.



Get a grip Talat. You are incompetent of unification because you are full of hate.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:47 am

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:The only trouble Zan, is that, while Christofias wants a solution based on True Federation, True Democracy and basic Human Rights for all Cypriots, Talat on the other hand, wants the opposite as you and VP seems to be. Talat should stop listening to NeoPartitionist and join rest of the Europeans, or else, he has nothing to offer to a solution or to the TC's, because the EU will not accept his demands, and neither would Christofias..


We have already been through this fictitious "True Democracy" that you keep trying to hit us on the head with Kikapu. Your kind of democracy stinks to put it blindly. You accept the undemocratic rights in the EU as a country but want to dismiss it elsewhere when it suits you. When you accept the democracy of the Zurich agreement and let us vote in the way our rights were signed to there, instead of supporting the fact that those rights were taken from us by force hen I will accept that you really are a believer in democracy and not the hypocrite that you seem to be. If on the other hand you believe that might is right and let them get away with it then all I can say to you is we had the might in 1974...Live with that......You seem to want it both ways and we are telling you, you can't....

Zan,

I really do not have time right now, but you keep going on about the Zurich Agreement, and that's fine, but if you want the Zurich Agreement back, which for the last 30+ years was never an issue to Denktash and the Company, then you should be also prepared to shut the "trnc" down, every single displaced person returned to their land and properties, removal of all settlers, removal of all Turkish Troops minus 650, and so on, and then hope that the Zurich Agreements is then not challenged in the EU courts for being Undemocratic and violation of Human Rights.

Be careful what you ask for Zan, because you might just end up getting it, and then you might not like it at all.

Anyway, I'm off to kick some NeoCons butts before the elections in the USA. This means that all you NeoPartitionist are about to get a break from me for a while. Enjoy it while it lasts.! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:25 am

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:The only trouble Zan, is that, while Christofias wants a solution based on True Federation, True Democracy and basic Human Rights for all Cypriots, Talat on the other hand, wants the opposite as you and VP seems to be. Talat should stop listening to NeoPartitionist and join rest of the Europeans, or else, he has nothing to offer to a solution or to the TC's, because the EU will not accept his demands, and neither would Christofias..


We have already been through this fictitious "True Democracy" that you keep trying to hit us on the head with Kikapu. Your kind of democracy stinks to put it blindly. You accept the undemocratic rights in the EU as a country but want to dismiss it elsewhere when it suits you. When you accept the democracy of the Zurich agreement and let us vote in the way our rights were signed to there, instead of supporting the fact that those rights were taken from us by force hen I will accept that you really are a believer in democracy and not the hypocrite that you seem to be. If on the other hand you believe that might is right and let them get away with it then all I can say to you is we had the might in 1974...Live with that......You seem to want it both ways and we are telling you, you can't....

Zan,

I really do not have time right now, but you keep going on about the Zurich Agreement, and that's fine, but if you want the Zurich Agreement back, which for the last 30+ years was never an issue to Denktash and the Company, then you should be also prepared to shut the "trnc" down, every single displaced person returned to their land and properties, removal of all settlers, removal of all Turkish Troops minus 650, and so on, and then hope that the Zurich Agreements is then not challenged in the EU courts for being Undemocratic and violation of Human Rights.

Be careful what you ask for Zan, because you might just end up getting it, and then you might not like it at all.

Anyway, I'm off to kick some NeoCons butts before the elections in the USA. This means that all you NeoPartitionist are about to get a break from me for a while. Enjoy it while it lasts.! :lol: :lol: :lol:



I asked you to write to your leader long ago and ask for it's return mate and you did nothing...If you can't do it from the inside then what chance have I.......So I need not be careful of asking for anything....You need to ask your leaders a hell of a lot more though...And you really need to stop getting hooked on new words.....Neopartitionists means nothing.......Old world ENOSISTS means a hell of a lot more!!!!
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:49 pm

but talata does that he says one thing then with turkey president says another... ohh we want solkution we want re unification, then he goes to turkey and say we will fight for two countries in cyprus
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:58 pm

Kikapu wrote: Anyway, I'm off to kick some NeoCons butts


Please kick them very hard indeed.
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Postby utu » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:05 am

Christofas and Talat are playing political popularity games, nothing more. They have to posture to their electorates to show that they are the 'strong party'. It is what is being said and negotiated behind the closed doors that matters, so unless the talks completely break down, ignore the public statements for the time being...
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Postby humanist » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:17 am

basically in Cyprus there are the Turks who make the decisions, The Cypriots who are standing strong and the TC's who obey the Turks. No negotiating room there.
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