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[BirKibrisli]

Reading and writing in this section of the Forum can easily lead to despair...I often think bitterness ,hatred and the desire for vengeance are what drives most people...Then I read something in a book and it warms my heart instantly...I want to share my last such moment with you...

The time is sometime soon after April,1865...The Place St Paul's Episcopal Church,Richmond,USA...At the start of the Holly Communion a tall,well-dressed Black man sitting in the Negro section of the Church rose and walked to the communion table before any of the White parishioners...

"The congregation froze;those who had been ready to go forward and kneel at the altar rail remained fixed in their pews.Momentarily stunned,the Minister himself was clearly embarrassed. The horror- and the surprise- of the congregation were no doubt largely visceral,but The Minister's silent retreat was evident. It was one thing for the white South to endure defeat and poverty,or to accept tha fact that slaves were now free;it was quite another for a black man to stride up to the front of the church as though an equal. And not just any church,but here,at the sanctuary of Richmond's elite,the wealthy,the well-bred,the high-cultured.

The black man slowly lowered his body,kneeling,while the rest of the congregation tensed in their pews.For his part,the minister stood,clearly uncomfortable and still dumbfounded."


Then a tall, older man,one of the church's many distinquised communicants rose and walked proudly up to the chancel rail:

"...with quiet dignity and self-possession,he knelt down to partake of the communion,along the same rail with the black man...The other comminicants slowly followed in his path,going forward to the altar,and,with a mixture of reluctance and fear,hope and awkward expectation,into the future..."

And who was this distinguished gentleman???? No other than Robert E. Lee,the formidable Southern commander who months earlier was engaged in a bitter,blood-soaked struggle to maintain a way of life defined by Slavery ...a manifestly indecent ambition...


The quotes are from "April,1865: The Month that saved America" by Jay Winik

[humanist]

Birk, I thank you so much for post ........ hope you are welll and so may they be close to your heart

Andreas

[BirKibrisli]

Birk, I thank you so much for post ........ hope you are welll and so may they be close to your heart

Andreas

You are welcome,dear Andrea...Thinking of you fondly,as always.

[Viewpoint]

Thats something like when we were not allowed on certain beaches?

[humanist]

well go get some counselling dude and move beyond it. You now are. Neither were the African Americans but now they are about to get a President. Something you will not see in Cyprus because you are stuffing your selves up by your requests.

[Viewpoint]

well go get some counselling dude and move beyond it. You now are. Neither were the African Americans but now they are about to get a President. Something you will not see in Cyprus because you are stuffing your selves up by your requests.

We have a TC president thank you very much as for discrimination you need to talk to a few more older TCs and hear the truth about their suffering at the hands of GCs.

[humanist]

Firstly you have bastardised my coment to suit your ego. Secondly I doubt not for a minute that older TC's have suffered at the hands of some fascists GC's. The question now is where do we go from now and if partition based on 18:82 is the go. Advise your so called president to put that on the table.

[zan]

Reading and writing in this section of the Forum can easily lead to despair...I often think bitterness ,hatred and the desire for vengeance are what drives most people...Then I read something in a book and it warms my heart instantly...I want to share my last such moment with you...

The time is sometime soon after April,1865...The Place St Paul's Episcopal Church,Richmond,USA...At the start of the Holly Communion a tall,well-dressed Black man sitting in the Negro section of the Church rose and walked to the communion table before any of the White parishioners...

"The congregation froze;those who had been ready to go forward and kneel at the altar rail remained fixed in their pews.Momentarily stunned,the Minister himself was clearly embarrassed. The horror- and the surprise- of the congregation were no doubt largely visceral,but The Minister's silent retreat was evident. It was one thing for the white South to endure defeat and poverty,or to accept tha fact that slaves were now free;it was quite another for a black man to stride up to the front of the church as though an equal. And not just any church,but here,at the sanctuary of Richmond's elite,the wealthy,the well-bred,the high-cultured.

The black man slowly lowered his body,kneeling,while the rest of the congregation tensed in their pews.For his part,the minister stood,clearly uncomfortable and still dumbfounded."


Then a tall, older man,one of the church's many distinquised communicants rose and walked proudly up to the chancel rail:

"...with quiet dignity and self-possession,he knelt down to partake of the communion,along the same rail with the black man...The other comminicants slowly followed in his path,going forward to the altar,and,with a mixture of reluctance and fear,hope and awkward expectation,into the future..."

And who was this distinguished gentleman???? No other than Robert E. Lee,the formidable Southern commander who months earlier was engaged in a bitter,blood-soaked struggle to maintain a way of life defined by Slavery ...a manifestly indecent ambition...


The quotes are from "April,1865: The Month that saved America" by Jay Winik

I can see all the people on this side of the rail and the humanity Bir but who s on the other side...Who is nailed to the cross???? If it is Cyprus then we are all praying for her return....If it is the "RoC" then I will not kneel and pray to the devil because another man is doing so...I would rather help him to his feet and walk out of there together......

[BirKibrisli]

Reading and writing in this section of the Forum can easily lead to despair...I often think bitterness ,hatred and the desire for vengeance are what drives most people...Then I read something in a book and it warms my heart instantly...I want to share my last such moment with you...

The time is sometime soon after April,1865...The Place St Paul's Episcopal Church,Richmond,USA...At the start of the Holly Communion a tall,well-dressed Black man sitting in the Negro section of the Church rose and walked to the communion table before any of the White parishioners...

"The congregation froze;those who had been ready to go forward and kneel at the altar rail remained fixed in their pews.Momentarily stunned,the Minister himself was clearly embarrassed. The horror- and the surprise- of the congregation were no doubt largely visceral,but The Minister's silent retreat was evident. It was one thing for the white South to endure defeat and poverty,or to accept tha fact that slaves were now free;it was quite another for a black man to stride up to the front of the church as though an equal. And not just any church,but here,at the sanctuary of Richmond's elite,the wealthy,the well-bred,the high-cultured.

The black man slowly lowered his body,kneeling,while the rest of the congregation tensed in their pews.For his part,the minister stood,clearly uncomfortable and still dumbfounded."


Then a tall, older man,one of the church's many distinquised communicants rose and walked proudly up to the chancel rail:

"...with quiet dignity and self-possession,he knelt down to partake of the communion,along the same rail with the black man...The other comminicants slowly followed in his path,going forward to the altar,and,with a mixture of reluctance and fear,hope and awkward expectation,into the future..."

And who was this distinguished gentleman???? No other than Robert E. Lee,the formidable Southern commander who months earlier was engaged in a bitter,blood-soaked struggle to maintain a way of life defined by Slavery ...a manifestly indecent ambition...


The quotes are from "April,1865: The Month that saved America" by Jay Winik

I can see all the people on this side of the rail and the humanity Bir but who s on the other side...Who is nailed to the cross???? If it is Cyprus then we are all praying for her return....If it is the "RoC" then I will not kneel and pray to the devil because another man is doing so...I would rather help him to his feet and walk out of there together......

Zan...For my own sanity, every now and then,I need to remind myself and everyone else that as humans we are capable of more than just bitterness,hatred,and the desire for vengeance...If we could just find the courage and moral fortitude of that Black man,we might just be rewarded by the graciousness and decency and the siprit of reconciliation shown by one Robert E.Lee...

The whole bloody problem has scarred us all emotionally and psychologically in different ways,so we react very differently to stress which comes from trying to have a sensible discussion about it all.
I refuse to believe that those on the "other" side are not capable of empathy,understanding and compassion for the plight of the TCs...They just don't know it yet...

[zan]

Reading and writing in this section of the Forum can easily lead to despair...I often think bitterness ,hatred and the desire for vengeance are what drives most people...Then I read something in a book and it warms my heart instantly...I want to share my last such moment with you...

The time is sometime soon after April,1865...The Place St Paul's Episcopal Church,Richmond,USA...At the start of the Holly Communion a tall,well-dressed Black man sitting in the Negro section of the Church rose and walked to the communion table before any of the White parishioners...

"The congregation froze;those who had been ready to go forward and kneel at the altar rail remained fixed in their pews.Momentarily stunned,the Minister himself was clearly embarrassed. The horror- and the surprise- of the congregation were no doubt largely visceral,but The Minister's silent retreat was evident. It was one thing for the white South to endure defeat and poverty,or to accept tha fact that slaves were now free;it was quite another for a black man to stride up to the front of the church as though an equal. And not just any church,but here,at the sanctuary of Richmond's elite,the wealthy,the well-bred,the high-cultured.

The black man slowly lowered his body,kneeling,while the rest of the congregation tensed in their pews.For his part,the minister stood,clearly uncomfortable and still dumbfounded."


Then a tall, older man,one of the church's many distinquised communicants rose and walked proudly up to the chancel rail:

"...with quiet dignity and self-possession,he knelt down to partake of the communion,along the same rail with the black man...The other comminicants slowly followed in his path,going forward to the altar,and,with a mixture of reluctance and fear,hope and awkward expectation,into the future..."

And who was this distinguished gentleman???? No other than Robert E. Lee,the formidable Southern commander who months earlier was engaged in a bitter,blood-soaked struggle to maintain a way of life defined by Slavery ...a manifestly indecent ambition...


The quotes are from "April,1865: The Month that saved America" by Jay Winik

I can see all the people on this side of the rail and the humanity Bir but who s on the other side...Who is nailed to the cross???? If it is Cyprus then we are all praying for her return....If it is the "RoC" then I will not kneel and pray to the devil because another man is doing so...I would rather help him to his feet and walk out of there together......

Zan...For my own sanity, every now and then,I need to remind myself and everyone else that as humans we are capable of more than just bitterness,hatred,and the desire for vengeance...If we could just find the courage and moral fortitude of that Black man,we might just be rewarded by the graciousness and decency and the siprit of reconciliation shown by one Robert E.Lee...

The whole bloody problem has scarred us all emotionally and psychologically in different ways,so we react very differently to stress which comes from trying to have a sensible discussion about it all.
I refuse to believe that those on the "other" side are not capable of empathy,understanding and compassion for the plight of the TCs...They just don't know it yet...

When sitting by a camp fire and a hungry man comes and request food I feed him...When a lion approaches and looks at ME as the food then grab a burning log and chase him away. I see no need to wait and ponder if the lion knows he is a lion or not.....