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[kafenes]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

[Tim Drayton]

There was an article by the respected Turkish Cypriot researcher Ahmet An in the BKP's weekly newspaper <i>Birleşik Kıbrıs</i> (United Cyprus) dated 19 April of this year which presents an account of the murder of Mishaulis and Kavazoglu. An cites a book entitled <i>Nevzat ve Ben</i> (Nevzat and I) by Özker Yaşın published in 2004. The events as described by An were as follow:

- Mishaulis and Kavaoglu were killed by the TMT, even though the TMT's own radio station blamed the Greek Cypriot right
- This organisation set a trap for the two AKEL members
- Kavazoglu had earlier made contact with some left-wingers in the village of Louroujina and pursuaded them to distribute AKEL Turkish-language leaflets to people they trusted in the village
- One of the recipients of these leaflets went to the TMT command in the village and reported what was going on
- Two of the left-wingers who were distributing these leaflets were arrested and sentenced to death for treason
- The TMT leadership in Nicosia, realising that they could catch a much bigger fish, intervened and postponed their execution
- An important person from TMT headquarters came to the village to interview these left-wingers. They were offered a deal. Either face the firing squad for committing treason, or else assist in setting a trap for Kavazoglu, in which case they would not only be spared, but would also be resettled in the UK with enough money to start their own businesses. They accepted this offer, and the rest is history.

I am only conveying the story as it is told by Ahmet An. However, if it is true, then some important questions come to my mind. At a time when the whole of Cyprus was supposedly under the control of the RoC government, was it not a political error of the greatest magnitude to permit enclaves to appear in which the TMT could set up an alternative regime? Such that distributing leaflets for a legal political party in the RoC could be considered an act of treason. Is this not how the seeds were sown for the separatist regime that was created after 1974? If the Turkish Cypriots could have been brought back into the fold of mainstream political life at that time, then would the entity that calls itself the "TRNC" exist now?

[denizaksulu]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

Kafenes, tell BK from me, I will not forgive him for messing my plans up the past summer. Now I am going to miss the Great Gathering.

Have a great time all of you including Oracle.

[kafenes]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

Kafenes, tell BK from me, I will not forgive him for messing my plans up the past summer. Now I am going to miss the Great Gathering.

Have a great time all of you including Oracle.

What??? you're not coming? Who is going to play the Oud? I am sure you can get a flight to Paphos for this historic gathering of the Secret Heros.

[denizaksulu]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

Kafenes, tell BK from me, I will not forgive him for messing my plans up the past summer. Now I am going to miss the Great Gathering.

Have a great time all of you including Oracle.

What??? you're not coming? Who is going to play the Oud? I am sure you can get a flight to Paphos for this historic gathering of the Secret Heros.

We were supposed to meet up in August. You must have mentioned Oracle to him and he renegged. I even bought a new suit to wear for your show.

[zan]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

Kafenes, tell BK from me, I will not forgive him for messing my plans up the past summer. Now I am going to miss the Great Gathering.

Have a great time all of you including Oracle.

What??? you're not coming? Who is going to play the Oud? I am sure you can get a flight to Paphos for this historic gathering of the Secret Heros.

We were supposed to meet up in August. You must have mentioned Oracle to him and he renegged. I even bought a new suit to wear for your show.

You don't have to wear that suit Deniz...Her radioactivity has lessoned in the last ten thousand years...

[BirKibrisli]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

But Oracle is not a real person...She is the figment of GR's imagination,is she not??????? I am getting really confused now...

[Oracle]

Here is a reminder that Makarios and Grivas were viewed as Heroes .. not just by GCs ... and further proof that they were fighting the Brits for Freedom and not towards Enosis as TCs and Bananiot suggest ...

Heroes at Odds

Monday, Oct. 05, 1959

In their stubborn four-year fight against Britain, Greek Cypriots had two respected chiefs. For military leadership they looked to daring, irascible George Grivas, the Greek army colonel who led their guerrilla bands. For political and spiritual guidance they relied on black-bearded Archbishop Makarios, head of Cyprus' Greek Orthodox Church and ethnarch of Cyprus' Greeks. Last week, with establishment of an independent Cypriot Republic only five months away, Cyprus' two heroes .....

I keep scratching my head at your one-eyed version of our history,Oracle...Yes EOKA was fighting for freedom but also for ENOSIS...If you can't accept this simple historical truth there is really no point in talking to you...Makarios was not a hero for 20% of Cypriots,and Grivas was not a hero either, to somewhat larger percentage of Cypriots...
We really need to find common heros for all Cypriots,and alas,they are very few...

I don't think they were fighting for Enosis in the latter half of the '50s Bir and that is an extract from TIME written in 1959, which indicates the battle was against the Brits and not a battle to join Greece.

It's obvious the idea of Enosis was so convenient it was used against them even when they focused on their main objective (removal of Britain).... and even now it's still being brought up by the Turk-TCs as a way by which to judge every call for our freedom. Such a convenient but inaccurate reason to keep us enslaved by Turkey now, I am surprised that people like you still bring it up so readily.

[zan]

Here is a reminder that Makarios and Grivas were viewed as Heroes .. not just by GCs ... and further proof that they were fighting the Brits for Freedom and not towards Enosis as TCs and Bananiot suggest ...

Heroes at Odds

Monday, Oct. 05, 1959

In their stubborn four-year fight against Britain, Greek Cypriots had two respected chiefs. For military leadership they looked to daring, irascible George Grivas, the Greek army colonel who led their guerrilla bands. For political and spiritual guidance they relied on black-bearded Archbishop Makarios, head of Cyprus' Greek Orthodox Church and ethnarch of Cyprus' Greeks. Last week, with establishment of an independent Cypriot Republic only five months away, Cyprus' two heroes .....

I keep scratching my head at your one-eyed version of our history,Oracle...Yes EOKA was fighting for freedom but also for ENOSIS...If you can't accept this simple historical truth there is really no point in talking to you...Makarios was not a hero for 20% of Cypriots,and Grivas was not a hero either, to somewhat larger percentage of Cypriots...
We really need to find common heros for all Cypriots,and alas,they are very few...

I don't think they were fighting for Enosis in the latter half of the '50s Bir and that is an extract from TIME written in 1959, which indicates the battle was against the Brits and not a battle to join Greece.

It's obvious the idea of Enosis was so convenient it was used against them even when they focused on their main objective (removal of Britain).... and even now it's still being brought up by the Turk-TCs as a way by which to judge every call for our freedom. Such a convenient but inaccurate reason to keep us enslaved by Turkey now, I am surprised that people like you still bring it up so readily.

YOU REALLY NEED TO READ A BIT MORE OF WHAT MAKARIOS SAID AND STOP YOUR CONFUSION DEAR

[kafenes]

Thanks for the complement Bit. My grandfather taught me to make lekhmajuns, he was originaly from Zilifke and then Hadjen. I believe the name if this dish is Arabic 'Lehim-bi-ajin' but they make it differently all around the world. You and the princess are more then welcome to my house for dinner, so is anybody else who would like to come.
Enough hijacking Oracles thread with food even though my grandfather was really a hero to me.

You are most welcome,Kafenes. The Precious princess is already packing her bags...But I must warn you,don't let her size fool you,she eats like a horse... We will give you a week's notice to get ready...
Shall I bring my darbuka???? Or shall me be considerate to your neighbours like last time...????

Look forward to seeing you both again. Please give me a few days notice to start the cooking. We can invite Oracle to play the darbuka this time.

But Oracle is not a real person...She is the figment of GR's imagination,is she not??????? I am getting really confused now...

Bir, Oracle is very much real. Having met her personally, I would describe her as a very cute, sweet and homely person. A true Cypriot. Just because some people here cannot accept the fact that a female can outsmart them, they have a go at her. You have to meet her in person to appreciate her sense of humor. Her hatred for the Turks can only be offensive to TCs who class themselves as Turks (and there are a few of them here).