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[Piratis]

Are we talking about the proclamation of the Republic of Turkey in 1923, or the name Turkey for Asia Minor that was first coined in the Middle Ages by Europeans? These are totally unrelated questions.

Tim, I am talking about the official name of the country which was declared without the approval of the minorities.

In general I don't disagree with what you say but it is a different subject. Did you know that the mother tongue of many of the "Turkish" Cypriots was Greek? Some of them didn't even speak Turkish. Basically they took all the Muslims of Cyprus, and they declared them as being Turkish. Then the TMT and Turkey forced all of those people to change language to Turkish and to bring their children up with Turkish as their language.

[denizaksulu]

Are we talking about the proclamation of the Republic of Turkey in 1923, or the name Turkey for Asia Minor that was first coined in the Middle Ages by Europeans? These are totally unrelated questions.

Tim, I am talking about the official name of the country which was declared without the approval of the minorities.

In general I don't disagree with what you say but it is a different subject. Did you know that the mother tongue of many of the "Turkish" Cypriots was Greek? Some of them didn't even speak Turkish. Basically they took all the Muslims of Cyprus, and they declared them as being Turkish. Then the TMT and Turkey forced all of those people to change language to Turkish and to bring their children up with Turkish as their language.

Pray, tell me who are 'they'?

What is this 'history re-visited'? Another GR'ish attempt at wiping out the Turkishness of Turkish Cypriots. Give it a rest. Most of us accept that there were conversions. The way you go on you would like the world to believe that no 'Turks@ came to Cyprus from Anatolia at all. Its time you grew up Piratis.

[SSBubbles]

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Oracle's hubby

This is him trying to get away ....

Is this really Mr O - or just a joke? ?

Well he posted this himself on the forum some time back .... and here's the one I posted of me ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=70

... but of course it's up to you what you believe.

(Only Kafenes has met us both....)

Your melons appear to have shrunk!

If this really is your husband, he looks quite fit - and I mean in the athletic way - nothing sexual before you get any ideas!

So, is Kafenes sworn to secrecy or may he confirm?

[Oracle]

Then post an interesting hero .....

Oracle's hubby

This is him trying to get away ....

Is this really Mr O - or just a joke? ?

Well he posted this himself on the forum some time back .... and here's the one I posted of me ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=70

... but of course it's up to you what you believe.

(Only Kafenes has met us both....)

Your melons appear to have shrunk!

If this really is your husband, he looks quite fit - and I mean in the athletic way - nothing sexual before you get any ideas!

So, is Kafenes sworn to secrecy or may he confirm?

I don't know if this happens to you Bubbles but my weight yo-yo-es dramatically in the space of just a few months ... the melons come and go of their own free will

Men on the other hand seem to stabilise quite easily

Yes he is fit, but I beat him to the summit last time we climbed a proper mountain (~ 14,000 feet). He came down with altitude sickness

[CBBB]

Not attitude sickness?

[SSBubbles]

Then post an interesting hero .....

Oracle's hubby

This is him trying to get away ....

Is this really Mr O - or just a joke? ?

Well he posted this himself on the forum some time back .... and here's the one I posted of me ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=70

... but of course it's up to you what you believe.

(Only Kafenes has met us both....)

Your melons appear to have shrunk!

If this really is your husband, he looks quite fit - and I mean in the athletic way - nothing sexual before you get any ideas!

So, is Kafenes sworn to secrecy or may he confirm?

I don't know if this happens to you Bubbles but my weight yo-yo-es dramatically in the space of just a few months ... the melons come and go of their own free will

Men on the other hand seem to stabilise quite easily

Yes he is fit, but I beat him to the summit last time we climbed a proper mountain (~ 14,000 feet). He came down with altitude sickness

No such luck. My weight is stable - and not at an ideal weight!

[denizaksulu]

Then post an interesting hero .....

Oracle's hubby

This is him trying to get away ....

Is this really Mr O - or just a joke? ?

Well he posted this himself on the forum some time back .... and here's the one I posted of me ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=70

... but of course it's up to you what you believe.

(Only Kafenes has met us both....)

Your melons appear to have shrunk!

If this really is your husband, he looks quite fit - and I mean in the athletic way - nothing sexual before you get any ideas!

So, is Kafenes sworn to secrecy or may he confirm?

I don't know if this happens to you Bubbles but my weight yo-yo-es dramatically in the space of just a few months ... the melons come and go of their own free will

Men on the other hand seem to stabilise quite easily

Yes he is fit, but I beat him to the summit last time we climbed a proper mountain (~ 14,000 feet). He came down with altitude sickness

No such luck. My weight is stable - and not at an ideal weight!

Nothing wrong with your weight Bubbles.

[kafenes]

To Bubbles, I confirm. that is definitely Mr. Oracle.

[Tim Drayton]

Are we talking about the proclamation of the Republic of Turkey in 1923, or the name Turkey for Asia Minor that was first coined in the Middle Ages by Europeans? These are totally unrelated questions.

Tim, I am talking about the official name of the country which was declared without the approval of the minorities.

In general I don't disagree with what you say but it is a different subject. Did you know that the mother tongue of many of the "Turkish" Cypriots was Greek? Some of them didn't even speak Turkish. Basically they took all the Muslims of Cyprus, and they declared them as being Turkish. Then the TMT and Turkey forced all of those people to change language to Turkish and to bring their children up with Turkish as their language.

It seems to me that it is not the name of the country that is important. I mean, if instead of the Republic of Turkey, the country had taken the name Republic of Asia Minor - or Republic of Anatolia (if I dare face your wrath for using what is actually a Greek name) - but apart from that had followed exactly the same policies, then what would have changed? What you are criticising, I think, is the way this state in various ways and at various times has oppressed non-Turkish ethnic groups within the country. As Shakespeare said, a rose would smell the same by any other name.

[SSBubbles]

Then post an interesting hero .....

Oracle's hubby

This is him trying to get away ....

Is this really Mr O - or just a joke? ?

Well he posted this himself on the forum some time back .... and here's the one I posted of me ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=70

... but of course it's up to you what you believe.

(Only Kafenes has met us both....)

Your melons appear to have shrunk!

If this really is your husband, he looks quite fit - and I mean in the athletic way - nothing sexual before you get any ideas!

So, is Kafenes sworn to secrecy or may he confirm?

I don't know if this happens to you Bubbles but my weight yo-yo-es dramatically in the space of just a few months ... the melons come and go of their own free will

Men on the other hand seem to stabilise quite easily

Yes he is fit, but I beat him to the summit last time we climbed a proper mountain (~ 14,000 feet). He came down with altitude sickness

No such luck. My weight is stable - and not at an ideal weight!

Nothing wrong with your weight Bubbles.

Yeah, for a baby elephant!