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[halil]

News report from New York.

Foreign Minister Turgay Avci has addressed the Organisation of the Islamic Conference Foreign Ministers Coordination Meeting in New York.

Here he called for the observer status of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to be changed to full member of the O.I.C.

He also said that he was very honoured to be able to take part in the meeting.

Reminding that Turkish Cypriots had been subjected to violence by Greek Cypriots through 1963-1974, Mr Avci said the 20th of July 1974 Turkish peace operation had saved the Turkish Cypriot people from total annihilation.

Informing the participants of the new negotiations process that has started in Cyprus as of 3rd of September, he said the Turkish Cypriot side is ready to support a solution based on the United Nations parameters and one that would not allow them to relive the bitter experiences of the past.

He stressed that the solution to the Cyprus problem is based on the parameters of the bi-zonality, the political equality of the two peoples, the equal status of the two founding states and Turkey’s effective guarantee.

‘But the Greek Cypriot sides illogical requests on land issues, power sharing and guarantees are negatively affecting the negotiations process’, he added.

Avci also pointed to the importance of cooperation and good will between religions and expressed concern over the rising intolerance against the Muslim world.

Meanwhile Foreign Minister Turgay Avci met with Turkey’s Foreign Minister Ali Babacan and the Secretary General of the Organization of the Islamic Conference Professor Doctor Ekmeleddin Ihsaoglu separately on the sidelines of his meetings in New York.

During his meeting with Ali Babacan the two men discussed the latest developments regarding the Cyprus issue and exchanged views on the newly restarted negotiations process in Cyprus.

Mr. Avci attended a working lunch with Ekmeleddin Ihsaoglu.

Here they discussed arrangements the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was planning on making the following year with O.I.C member countries.

[zan]

The warning signs have been there for a long time for the "RoC" to see......

[paliometoxo]

you people cant make your minds up one second you say two states the next ohh we want re-unification, whats that about??

you turks are dreaming again, just because some islam people or arabs in america say this bull crap doesent mean anything...

just like the soon to be president promising to get rid of turks from north... thats laughable.. two states and garantore from turkey ahah basically turkey is calling the shots and wants turkey number in the north.. keep dreaming, maybe for you these are wet dreams even

[miltiades]

"""""Mr Avci said the 20th of July 1974 Turkish peace operation had saved the Turkish Cypriot people from total annihilation. """

Did he also say that from November 15th 1967 to July 1974 , some 7 years prior to the "Turkish" peace operation NOT ONE SINGLE Turkish Cypriot was "annihilated"
You see guys , propaganda is just that , Propaganda. The International community at large looks at these allegations and demands facts not merely propaganda. The Cypriot people lived together for hundreds of years in peace and interacted in a perfectly civilized fashion. The International community will also take into account that the G/Cs are not putting forward the idea that Turkey desperately promotes that our people can not live in peace together. I'm afraid that the "trnc" stands as much chance of being recognised as I have of beating GR in a contest of who the youngest is !!! Even the OIC still has to abide by International norms, and frankly flooding a part of Cyprus with settlers and demanding recognition of a " nation" made up of 70 % plus of Anatolian settlers is not seen as a viable proposition.

[zan]

"""""Mr Avci said the 20th of July 1974 Turkish peace operation had saved the Turkish Cypriot people from total annihilation. """

Did he also say that from November 15th 1967 to July 1974 , some 7 years prior to the "Turkish" peace operation NOT ONE SINGLE Turkish Cypriot was "annihilated"
You see guys , propaganda is just that , Propaganda. The International community at large looks at these allegations and demands facts not merely propaganda. The Cypriot people lived together for hundreds of years in peace and interacted in a perfectly civilized fashion. The International community will also take into account that the G/Cs are not putting forward the idea that Turkey desperately promotes that our people can not live in peace together. I'm afraid that the "trnc" stands as much chance of being recognised as I have of beating GR in a contest of who the youngest is !!! Even the OIC still has to abide by International norms, and frankly flooding a part of Cyprus with settlers and demanding recognition of a " nation" made up of 70 % plus of Anatolian settlers is not seen as a viable proposition.

AH! The Miltiades signature tune..... Violence of thye mind...Violence of sanctions...The violence of not knowing where your next wage packet is going to come from...In short...The siege of the "RoC" on Cypriot people......What a story you tell Miltiades....Half story that is...

The recognition of countries holds to no rules mate...We have seen many countries that should not have been recognised, recognised.....The "RoC" being one of them......We shall see what the OIC will do.....With the current conflicts and the USA showing the way, we shall se what happens and who gets recognised if these talks fail.....

[halil]

The warning signs have been there for a long time for the "RoC" to see......

Zan ,
I think Mr Avcı made mistake here with the terms (words) at the moment Tc's side is observer in OIC under the name called Turkish federate state not TRNC .

At the moment not in Turkish Cypriots and Turkey's agenda for recognition claims for TRNC .

What they wants is to be member state like it was called in Annan plan as far as ı know .

We have to wait what will come out after the meetings .we must wait for final report .

I can tell you Turkish Cypriots side has not got any plan for recognitions for TRNC ....Now we are having talks about new forum of the Cyprus States .

from below link you can see position of the TRNC at the moment in OIC
http://www.oic-oci.org/oicnew/page_detail.asp?p_id=179

[zan]

The warning signs have been there for a long time for the "RoC" to see......

Zan ,
I think Mr Avcı made mistake here with the terms (words) at the moment Tc's side is observer in OIC under the name called Turkish federate state not TRNC .

At the moment not in Turkish Cypriots and Turkey's agenda for recognition claims for TRNC .

What they wants is to be member state like it was called in Annan plan as far as ı know .

We have to wait what will come out after the meetings .we must wait for final report .

I can tell you Turkish Cypriots side has not got any plan for recognitions for TRNC ....Now we are having talks about new forum of the Cyprus States .

from below link you can see position of the TRNC at the moment in OIC
http://www.oic-oci.org/oicnew/page_detail.asp?p_id=179

Thanks Halil.......I realise that we must wait but as it has been said before...This cannot be forever.

[Viewpoint]

Do you give up on other avenues when you are trying to negotiate with GCs knowing full well that these talks have no chance of success. You have to keep your other options alive.

[Piratis]

Did he also say that the Cypriot people never ventured out from their island to harm anybody, but it is the murderous Turks who invaded us and oppressed for 3+ centuries?

Did he also say that the conflict during which he cries they suffered, was again started by the Turks in 1958 when they attacked us and collaborated with the British in order to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination?

Or he just talked only about their suffering in that conflict, without mentioning our suffering during it, without mentioning that it is them who started it, without mentioning the suffering the Turks have caused to the native Cypriot people before that conflict, and without mentioning the suffering the Turks have caused to us after the conflict? Aparently he just remembered 1% of history, and even that 1% he distorted it to his liking! He forgot everything that didn't suit him during that conflict (including the "detail" that it is the TCs who started it) and he forgot everything that happened before and after that mere decade!

The fact is that is that it is the Turks who invaded our island with the aim to enslave and oppress us, it is them again who attacked us again and collaborated with the British in order to deny Cyprus its freedom, and it is them who again invaded in 1974 killing 1000s of people and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands. And today they are looking for lame excuses to continue with yet more crimes against the Cypriot people.

[Viewpoint]

He just reconfirmed what all other nations knew about the GC treatment of TCs from 1963 to 1974, and the fact that TCs sided with the Brits because they had to fight against their country being given to Greece, even after sign a partnership agreement to build a country for all Cypriots.