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Postby zan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:49 am

humanist wrote:there comes a time when an intelligent individual has to stop talking with an idiotic racist fool. have a nice day




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ow often do you talk to yourself.......Look at some of your own posts before you talk of others beliefs.......And don't ggive me the rubbish about you losing iit sometimes...You are that person who I always knew you were....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:40 pm

Their flag is theirs they can do what ever they want with it, nothing to do with us TCs.
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Postby zan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Their flag is theirs they can do what ever they want with it, nothing to do with us TCs.


Too bloody right!!!!!
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:19 am

GR what is your opinion on the following, assuming we agree gfor partition and the only partition we will agree too is 18:82. And because cypriots is not a bigot, fascist and discriminatory like the what might be called trnc. a how will they survive econmoically evn they join the EU but still have a very small soveregnthy, secondly what will happen to those TC's currently living in Cyprus. Will they become one citizens for example Cypriot without any distinction or will they be expelled to the north and have similar rights of all those other turks that would be living in the trnc as it will be known and recognised internatiionally or finally will they become a state of Turkey or a canton or whatever Turkey has in territory identification>


look forward to your response an dothers who would be genuine

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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:02 am

humanist wrote: assuming we agree gfor partition and the only partition we will agree too is 18:82. And because cypriots is not a bigot, fascist and discriminatory like the what might be called trnc. a how will they survive econmoically evn they join the EU but still have a very small soveregnthy,

I very much doubt that a separate TC state would inherit EU membership but would have to apply through the standard channels if desired.

I also doubt they would be able to survive economically on their own unless they are first put in the care and guidance of a special international program for a period of time to be taught how to run and sustain it until their economy is healthy, but it would take an enormous effort and involve every aspect of their life. The elimination of corruption would be of outmost importance as would a major improvement in education and training, and measures would need to be taken to stimulate private enterprise, etc, etc.

Btw, handouts are definitely NOT the solution for them, but the right tools and training to become self-sufficient.


secondly what will happen to those TC's currently living in Cyprus. Will they become one citizens for example Cypriot without any distinction or will they be expelled to the north and have similar rights of all those other turks that would be living in the trnc as it will be known and recognised internatiionally

The TCs which have been living in the RoC have always had the right to move to wherever they please anyway but I very much doubt they’d be foolish enough to opt for such a volatile state.


or finally will they become a state of Turkey or a canton or whatever Turkey has in territory identification>

Cyprus with her then 500,000 people struggled enormously to stand on her own two feet in the last century so imagine what an even smaller and weaker TC state would have to go through before it matures and stabilizes. Although the UN would most likely include clauses in such an agreement that would legally safeguard a TC state from Turkish annexation, enforcing such an agreement would be a serious problem. The risk of a split between TCs and ENOSIS (to Turkey) supporters would be a constant threat to its existence, and perhaps its downfall…
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:06 am

There is a peice of music entitled 4'33'' by composer John Cage in which the performer is instructed to remain silent for the whole 4 minutes and 33 seconds of the performance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3

How about a postmodern flag which exists by its very absence, resulting in an empty flagpole?

HEALTH WARNING: This is a facetious post.
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:27 pm

Thanks GR
interesting no TC has contributed perhaps they kow their fate choose between the two evils is easy ..... go for their country
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Postby ttoli » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Their flag is theirs they can do what ever they want with it, nothing to do with us TCs.
After all it was a TC that designed it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Their flag is theirs they can do what ever they want with it, nothing to do with us TCs.



A certain Mr Kamil Hür (interestingly his surname means "free") would beg to differ with you on that one:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19379
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:41 pm

ttoli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Their flag is theirs they can do what ever they want with it, nothing to do with us TCs.
After all it was a TC that designed it :lol: :lol: :lol:


A China man may have designed it for all it means nothing to TCs, its a flag that represent a GC state by default, a foreign land just like any other.
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