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[zan]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

[Piratis]

It does not mention anyone leaving Piratis...Was this on purpose???? Do the figures also show how many babies were being born ton each side....The TCs just had bigger families in those days....And who did you say did the survey????

The pioint of the matter is that in 1974 there were at least 10,000 makarios supporters that were destined for murder....Makarios came back...What do you think would have happened to those Coupist supporters do you think????

The fact still remains that my father could not find work like thousands more and food was in short supply because of isolation and siege.....TCs left because of that reason...I ddo not have to find anything or look at numbers to tellme that...We are living facts of that....

So you just see the case of your father and not the case of 1000s of others with similar cases from both sides. And since you like to blame GCs for everything you blame them because there was poverty and unemployment.

Cyprus was poor at that time Zan, and people from both sides left the island to have a better life abroad. The conflict made this worst for some people, but it made it worst for both sides, and even for the other communities of Cyprus. Ask the Armenian Cypriots that you evicted from their neighborhoods of Nicosia in the 60s.

[Viewpoint]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

Were we wrong in think that the agreement reached in 1960 was the end of the past problems and the start of building a united Cyprus, the ink didnt dry on your signature, it took you only 3 years to weave your shit which we had to fight against and ensure our survival against people with no integrity reneging on their signature which obviously means nothing and should be taken into account for the future.

[Piratis]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

It is clear who started it mate.

Our desire for freedom like all other Greek territories and islands was our right. It is you who attacked and invaded our island in order to deprive us from our freedom.

According to you our desire for freedom from your brutal rule was "what started it"?? Tell me what you conclude from the paragraph below Zan:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

1) That the Cypriot people, along with the rest of Greeks, wanted to free themselves of the foreign Ottoman rule and create a free Greek state as it was their right.

or

2) That the "evil" Cypriots (and Greeks in general?) had no right for freedom and therefore the Turks had the right to again attack them, kill them, and continue to impose their rule over Cyprus by force.

[zan]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

It is clear who started it mate.

Our desire for freedom like all other Greek territories and islands was our right. It is you who attacked and invaded our island in order to deprive us from our freedom.

According to you our desire for freedom from your brutal rule was "what started it"?? Tell me what you conclude from the paragraph below Zan:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

1) That the Cypriot people, along with the rest of Greeks, wanted to free themselves of the foreign Ottoman rule and create a free Greek state as it was their right.

or

2) That the "evil" Cypriots (and Greeks in general?) had no right for freedom and therefore the Turks had the right to again attack them, kill them, and continue to impose their rule over Cyprus by force.

OH! MY..what a revelation...Is that how empires work..


Now back to reality.....You were not fighting for independence but for ENOSIS...Your leaders and your church...That is why the trouble started and no other reason.

[miltiades]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

You are a boring old fart aren't you , bloody broken gramophone record, ENOSIS , GRIVAS , EOKA , give it a rest mate , try being a T/C for a change , you know a real T/C not a bloody Grey wolf !!
ps. Does it bother you that I may just know lots more T/Cs than you do !!!
Got one in my extended family too as I mentioned earlier.

[Piratis]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

Were we wrong in think that the agreement reached in 1960 was the end of the past problems and the start of building a united Cyprus, the ink didnt dry on your signature, it took you only 3 years to weave your shit which we had to fight against and ensure our survival against people with no integrity reneging on their signature which obviously means nothing and should be taken into account for the future.

Cyprus was always united my friend. It is you who were trying to divide it. The inter-communal conflict started in 1958 when you attacked us. We showed the goodwill to try to end that conflict but it didn't work out because of your insistence to force your will undemocratically and by force on the Cypriot people. What you should keep in mind for the future is that agreements and peace can not be reached by attacking us and blackmailing us. Like now that you keep our land as hostage and you are trying to blackmail us again to accept your terms.

[zan]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

You are a boring old fart aren't you , bloody broken gramophone record, ENOSIS , GRIVAS , EOKA , give it a rest mate , try being a T/C for a change , you know a real T/C not a bloody Grey wolf !!
ps. Does it bother you that I may just know lots more T/Cs than you do !!!
Got one in my extended family too as I mentioned earlier.

Congratulations mate...I shall tell all the TCs at our next meeting and see if any of them know you....


Now about the TC thing...I have already told you that you do not make the rules around here or anywhere else for that matter......Nor does the "RoC"...All they are is representatives of the GC people as is the TRNC of the TC people......If that changes then I will let you know!!

OH! And did I tell you that ALL my family are TCs...Both on my mothers side and on my fathers......You know TCs...I am a TC

[Piratis]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

It is clear who started it mate.

Our desire for freedom like all other Greek territories and islands was our right. It is you who attacked and invaded our island in order to deprive us from our freedom.

According to you our desire for freedom from your brutal rule was "what started it"?? Tell me what you conclude from the paragraph below Zan:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

1) That the Cypriot people, along with the rest of Greeks, wanted to free themselves of the foreign Ottoman rule and create a free Greek state as it was their right.

or

2) That the "evil" Cypriots (and Greeks in general?) had no right for freedom and therefore the Turks had the right to again attack them, kill them, and continue to impose their rule over Cyprus by force.

OH! MY..what a revelation...Is that how empires work..


Now back to reality.....You were not fighting for independence but for ENOSIS...Your leaders and your church...That is why the trouble started and no other reason.

We were fighting for freedom Zan. Who ever told you that every island and village should be separate and independent? If it was like that the world would have millions of countries. Cyprus was fighting for its freedom since 1821 along with the rest Greek islands and territories in order to create a free Greek state. Who gave you the right to kill Cypriots and deny them their freedom and impose your rule over Cyprus?

You come here to tell me that it was fine for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman empire (and later the British empire) against the will of the Cypriot people, but it was not fine for Cyprus to be free in a Greek state along with the rest Greek islands which is what the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people wanted????? And that the desire of the Cypriot people for freedom was a "crime" that the Turks had the right to kill us in order to punish us?? Are you serious???

[zan]

We were being systmatically cleansed by your religious leader.

As much as we were systematically cleansed by you, the ones who started that conflict in the first place. The numbers are clear. So why do you blame Makarios for the conflict and not your TMT who started it? Or did you want us to just sit their and let you attack us, kill us and impose your will on us with your collaboration with the British and not to fight back for our rights?

And now we are talking just for that decade. Not counting the 10s of thousands of Cypriots that you killed before AND after that decade.

It is really ridiculous from your part to present yourselves as the innocent victims when it is you who invaded our island in the first place and then oppressed us for centuries, and you who started both the inter communal conflict of 1958-1968 and the war of 1974.

First the Megali idea and then ENOSIS and this clown says we started it Try saying it another tousand times Piratis and even you might believe it because nobody else dose

It is clear who started it mate.

Our desire for freedom like all other Greek territories and islands was our right. It is you who attacked and invaded our island in order to deprive us from our freedom.

According to you our desire for freedom from your brutal rule was "what started it"?? Tell me what you conclude from the paragraph below Zan:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

1) That the Cypriot people, along with the rest of Greeks, wanted to free themselves of the foreign Ottoman rule and create a free Greek state as it was their right.

or

2) That the "evil" Cypriots (and Greeks in general?) had no right for freedom and therefore the Turks had the right to again attack them, kill them, and continue to impose their rule over Cyprus by force.

OH! MY..what a revelation...Is that how empires work..


Now back to reality.....You were not fighting for independence but for ENOSIS...Your leaders and your church...That is why the trouble started and no other reason.

We were fighting for freedom Zan. Who ever told you that every island and village should be separate and independent? If it was like that the world would have millions of countries. Cyprus was fighting for its freedom since 1821 along with the rest Greek islands and territories in order to create a free Greek state. Who gave you the right to kill Cypriots and deny them their freedom and impose your rule over Cyprus?

You come here to tell me that it was fine for Cyprus to be part of the Ottoman empire (and later the British empire) against the will of the Cypriot people, but it was not fine for Cyprus to be free in a Greek state along with the rest Greek islands which is what the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people wanted????? And that the desire of the Cypriot people for freedom was a "crime" that the Turks had the right to kill us in order to punish us?? Are you serious???

You came with the Byzantium Empire so what.....

You where fighting for ENOSIS and nothing else..The first British that landed was greeted with cries and pleas for ENOSIS...So you telling us another fictional story dose you no favours......Mind you, you lost credibility long ago...Keep it going mate...You cannot sink any lower