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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:20 pm

Deniz thank you for your coment, I am not sure what excactly he meant on that point, you ,memtioned earlier. But if we do follow all resoultions it will basically mean going back to the constitutions and my understanding TC's don't want that. The one person one vote is an EU requirement therefore needs to be adhere too unless your guys don't want to be part of the EU. So I guess we'll wait and see what it means. Then of course Turkey makes the decisions and talat just goes into echalalia.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:22 pm

"effective" implies a power that is based on merit. i.e. one man one vote.

federally this is and should be the character of the State which is the representative of all its citizens without bias.

as for bicommunality, two (or three or many) National Assemblies, which serve to sustain the communities seperately, offers the equality which Turkish Cypriots seek as equals.

i am hopeful with Christofias as President because i believe that his interests are Cypriot first, rather than "Greek".
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:36 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:"effective" implies a power that is based on merit. i.e. one man one vote.

federally this is and should be the character of the State which is the representative of all its citizens without bias.

as for bicommunality, two (or three or many) National Assemblies, which serve to sustain the communities seperately, offers the equality which Turkish Cypriots seek as equals.

i am hopeful with Christofias as President because i believe that his interests are Cypriot first, rather than "Greek".


Doesnt effective mean have a chance like equality of the 2 state 2 communites in power sharing and not allowing the "majority" so what ever they want.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:47 pm

VP, you want a "majority" to sustain yourself, so too the "Greeks". at the Federal level, there are more than "Greeks" and "Turks" to consider. a majority in this case represents Principals, rather than "ethnicity".

having a system of National Assemblies allows for the "majorities" you have in mind.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:19 pm

Wrong decision do not effect me any less than it does the majority, so why should I not ask for a equal say in my own future?
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:26 pm

you ain't gonna get 2 states and 2 people's s I suggest you start thinking about what you will accept. beause there's a lot of Cypriots out there that want one country one sovereignthy, one citizenship and one international personality. Both you annd that old fool have been stuck in the past whilst your leader is agreeing to the three ponts abpve so start giving him ideas of wat you want.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:30 pm

What the Turk-TCs may want ... and what they can rightfully expect are two different things. Time they faced the truth and stop having unrealistic dreams ....

The TCs opposed self-determination for Cyprus ... so they have to accept we are not so charitable as to offer them self-determination for a part of Cyprus they did not help as Free in the first place ...
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:00 pm

Oracles, my good friend. I have come to conclude there is no such thing as a TC they are all Turks who thrive on kiling pillage and thievery. Christofias is a great President who has a good grip on issues at hand. The solutio for Cyprus' occupation will take place in the near future and it will be based on the UN resolutions but also within the parameters of EU laws and regulations unless of-course they want to continue herding sheep on the side on Pendathaktilos. EU passports and ID cads do not show religion on ethnicity, if they are going to be part of Europe they have to give up on the notion of Turkishness they like other Cypriots will have to have an ID card that says Cypriot. If they are ready to accept that we may be a ble to move forward otherwise they can sit back and wit for the miracle.

Turkey is getting despaerate to access EU fund she wants to be part of Europe, Europe is getting tough on occupation of its territory and they will not allow Turkey EU membership til she gets the hll out of our country.

Freedom is nearing ans the TC's need to face the reality. They are either Turks or Cypriots.

On that note Christofias will need to make allowance on property issue. And many refugees will accept a fair solution to that problem. The problem is will the TC's who came from the free areas will they agree to their properties by the sea in Paphos lemesos and Larnaca go in exchange for somthing in the occupied areas.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:08 pm

humanist wrote:Oracles, my good friend. I have come to conclude there is no such thing as a TC they are all Turks who thrive on kiling pillage and thievery. Christofias is a great President who has a good grip on issues at hand. The solutio for Cyprus' occupation will take place in the near future and it will be based on the UN resolutions but also within the parameters of EU laws and regulations unless of-course they want to continue herding sheep on the side on Pendathaktilos. EU passports and ID cads do not show religion on ethnicity, if they are going to be part of Europe they have to give up on the notion of Turkishness they like other Cypriots will have to have an ID card that says Cypriot. If they are ready to accept that we may be a ble to move forward otherwise they can sit back and wit for the miracle.

Turkey is getting despaerate to access EU fund she wants to be part of Europe, Europe is getting tough on occupation of its territory and they will not allow Turkey EU membership til she gets the hll out of our country.

Freedom is nearing ans the TC's need to face the reality. They are either Turks or Cypriots.

On that note Christofias will need to make allowance on property issue. And many refugees will accept a fair solution to that problem. The problem is will the TC's who came from the free areas will they agree to their properties by the sea in Paphos lemesos and Larnaca go in exchange for somthing in the occupied areas.


TCs passed that bridge a long time ago and many have exchanged property in the south for land in the north all that will be left is the accounting of difference in value of the 2 properties.

As for the overall solution never forget we are also and equal weight to yours whos YES is necessary to move things forward just like GCs if we feel a solution will make thing worse for us we will not hesitate in saying NO.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:35 pm

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humanist wrote:Oracles, my good friend. I have come to conclude there is no such thing as a TC they are all Turks who thrive on kiling pillage and thievery. Christofias is a great President who has a good grip on issues at hand. The solutio for Cyprus' occupation will take place in the near future and it will be based on the UN resolutions but also within the parameters of EU laws and regulations unless of-course they want to continue herding sheep on the side on Pendathaktilos. EU passports and ID cads do not show religion on ethnicity, if they are going to be part of Europe they have to give up on the notion of Turkishness they like other Cypriots will have to have an ID card that says Cypriot. If they are ready to accept that we may be a ble to move forward otherwise they can sit back and wit for the miracle.

Turkey is getting despaerate to access EU fund she wants to be part of Europe, Europe is getting tough on occupation of its territory and they will not allow Turkey EU membership til she gets the hll out of our country.

Freedom is nearing ans the TC's need to face the reality. They are either Turks or Cypriots.

On that note Christofias will need to make allowance on property issue. And many refugees will accept a fair solution to that problem. The problem is will the TC's who came from the free areas will they agree to their properties by the sea in Paphos lemesos and Larnaca go in exchange for somthing in the occupied areas.


TCs passed that bridge a long time ago and many have exchanged property in the south for land in the north all that will be left is the accounting of difference in value of the 2 properties.

As for the overall solution never forget we are also and equal weight to yours whos YES is necessary to move things forward just like GCs if we feel a solution will make thing worse for us we will not hesitate in saying NO.


There have been no land exchanges ... you are living in an illegally occupied stolen part of Cyprus and no lies will let you off.
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