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Ethnic Cleansing, Pot,Kettle and Black

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Postby zan » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:08 am

miltiades wrote:
T_C wrote:Yeah OK Piratis. :lol:

An 80% majority import 20.000 soldiers from Greece to attack an 18% minority and you still act like we were the ones in the wrong. :lol:

Thats pathetic!

No ones trying to find excuses to commit more crimes against you.

The thread is about the pot calling the kettle black, and no matter how many excuses YOU try to find, NOTHING can deny what barbarians you can be yourselves.

Are they the same barbarians that offer free health care to every single T/C in the hospitals of the RoC. Are they the same barbarians that that the entire world has in mind when referring to barbarians , do people say , Oh yes the G/Cs the barbarians. TC , you were at one stage a moderate you are allowing yourself to become intoxicated with the Zan mentality. The people of Cyprus are known throughout the world for their hospitality friendliness and and their aversion to cruelty against the human race. I think you are confusing Cyprus with Turkey whose human rights record is well documented and known worldwide.



Your ticket into the EU Miltiades so stop making out that we are allowed these things through the kindness of the "RoC" hearts. Try stopping them and see what happens....The one thing I hate about this sort of crap is the contempt it shows fro the reader.....You need to tell it how it is, how we know it to be and you will be more respected for it instead of looked at like some old geezer that has no idea what is going on but lectures us anyway. The same reason why youngsters take drugs...They are told that it is the worst thing on earth and when they try it it simply isn't and can even be really pleasant. They do not believe word you tell them after that. Better to tell them the truth and then the downsides that follow a long time afterwards by which time they don't care. They see people like my elder brother who has taken heroin for 30 years and is still going and they think the lies about every person dying is just a ploy to spoil their fun...

Nobody is saying that the normal GC is evil....There are some that are though and they are the ones in power. The ex- EOKA men and women.

No start trying to be honest..I might be wrong though and maybe you know nothing about what is going on!!!
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:15 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
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Tim Drayton wrote:I thought the reason the other Western powers cut off their support was because Greece had been told what territory it could take following the Treaty of Sevres, but instead its army decided to drive on deep into Anatolia in a forlorn attempt to recreate the exploits of Alexander the Great, and into ultimate annihilation.



That is also what I understand too from many sources. It is not the first time that 'false' information or revised histories are produced like this.


I don't know if you have ever read Lord Kinross's seminal biography of Ataturk, but it is very clear to me from this book that it was precisely this lunatic Greek adventure which provided the catalyst that enabled Mustafa Kemal to unite the disparate forces in Anatolia that opposed the Treaty of Sevres and forge them into an effective national liberation movement. By a strange quirk of history, rabid, irredentist Greek nationalism helped to give birth to the modern Turkish state. I can't help chuckling when I read some of the posts on this forum by Greek nationalists berating the Republic of Turkey when the ideology they subscribe to actually helped to create this nation. I am sure that this irony is not lost on you, either.


Was the 1821 uprising an act of rabid irredentist Greek Nationalism or an attempt to free them from the Ottoman yoke? In the same way this further push was not a subscribed ideology but a right to continue the road to freedom they had started. There is no irony Tim, just a lost battle!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:51 am

Oracle wrote:Was the 1821 uprising an act of rabid irredentist Greek Nationalism or an attempt to free them from the Ottoman yoke? In the same way this further push was not a subscribed ideology but a right to continue the road to freedom they had started. There is no irony Tim, just a lost battle!


I consistently support the principle of self-determination for all peoples. I regard the 1912 Balkans War, for example, as the justified struggle against the Ottoman yoke of the opressed peoples of the Balkans; similarly, I regard the 1919-1922 Turkish war of independence as the justified struggle of the Turkish people against the Western imperialist powers.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:05 am

T_C wrote: I even have pictures of TCs being ethnically cleansed by Greeks at gun point from Kucuk Kaymakli.


Hi T_C,

I would like to see those pictures. I would like to see if any of them have me and my family (9 members) in them, so either post them on the forum or PM them to me..

Thanks.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:18 am

Kikapu wrote:
T_C wrote: I even have pictures of TCs being ethnically cleansed by Greeks at gun point from Kucuk Kaymakli.


Hi T_C,

I would like to see those pictures. I would like to see if any of them have me and my family (9 members) in them, so either post them on the forum or PM them to me..

Thanks.


:lol: T_C is gonna get the Kinky-poo treatment too ....

Heard anything from Soyer lately? :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:22 am

Oracle wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
T_C wrote: I even have pictures of TCs being ethnically cleansed by Greeks at gun point from Kucuk Kaymakli.


Hi T_C,

I would like to see those pictures. I would like to see if any of them have me and my family (9 members) in them, so either post them on the forum or PM them to me..

Thanks.


:lol: T_C is gonna get the Kinky-poo treatment too ....

Heard anything from Soyer lately? :wink:

Yup, they caught him at the roadblock trying to smuggle Viagra… oh you mean OUR Soyer? :?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:24 am

Kikapu wrote:
T_C wrote: I even have pictures of TCs being ethnically cleansed by Greeks at gun point from Kucuk Kaymakli.


Hi T_C,

I would like to see those pictures. I would like to see if any of them have me and my family (9 members) in them, so either post them on the forum or PM them to me..

Thanks.

If you see one in his collection of Makarios blessing hand-grenades please ignore it...
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Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:33 am

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
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zan wrote:EOKA (Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agoniston)
EOKA [Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agoniston - National Organization of Cypriot Fighters] started a guerrilla campaign against British colonial rule aimed at self-determination and union with Greece (Enosis)on 01 April 1955. The campaign, which started when the first EOKA bombs exploded at 00.30 hours on 1st of April 1955, lasted until 1959 and caused the death of more Greek Cypriot civilians than the total of British killed. It created civil strife and mistrust between the two Cypriot communities. Tension increased in early 1957, when EOKA attacked Turkish police and auxiliaries. EOKA received direct support from Greece in money, arms, organization and propaganda. Greek-speaking Cypriots were awed by EOKA terrorists and subject to bombardment by Athens radio. Under a 1959 compromise settlement known as Zurich-London agreements, Cyprus became an independent Republic in 1960. Since then, April 1 is a national holiday. It was celebrated in memorial services in Churches and gatherings in cities and villages in the free part of Cyprus.

EOKA-B emerged twice, in 1963 and 1974, in collaboration and cooperation with Greece, to attack the Turkish Cypriots, one of the two co-founding partners of the Republic of Cyprus, with the aim of uniting the Island with Greece.

Between 1969 and 1971, several groups embarked on a renewed terrorist campaign for enosis. Grivas returned clandestinely to Cyprus sometime in the late summer or early fall of 1971 and set up a new guerilla organization, the national Organizaiton of Cypriot Fighters (Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agonistm B--EOKA B). Most members of the terrorist movement held regular jobs in the Greek Cypriot community; half were police officials and members of the National Guard.

There was also considerable evidence of support of EOKA B activities by the Greek junta, whose hostility to Makarios became increasingly apparent during the early 1970s. The junta was believed to be involved in several attempts on the life of President Makarios. In March 1970, Makarios narrowly escaped death when his helicopter was shot down. Makarios walked away from the crash, but his pilot was killed. Former minister of the interior Polykarpos Georkajis, in contact with local right-wing groups and the junta in Athens, was thought to be implicated, and was assassinated shortly afterward. A paramilitary presidential guard loyal to Makarios, called the Tactical Police Reserve, was organized in 1972. Consisting of fewer than 1,000 men, the Tactical Police Reserve succeeded in arresting large numbers of EOKA B guerrillas. In a further attempt to bring subversive forces under control, Makarios dismissed many National Guard and police officers suspected of EOKA B activity.

With the death of Grivas from a heart attack in January 1974, EOKA B came more directly under the control of the military junta in Athens, which, after a change of leadership, was even more hostile to Makarios. The archbishop, however, saw the Greekofficered National Guard as a more serious threat to his government than EOKA B. In a letter to the Greek president in early July, he accused the junta of attempting to subvert the government of Cyprus through the Greek officers of the National Guard, who in turn supported the terrorist activities of EOKA B. Makarion demanded immediate removal of the 650 Greek officers staffing the National Guard and their replacement by 100 instructors who would help reorganize the Greek Cypriot force.

The reply to the Makarios challenge came on 15 July 1974 in the form of a coup d'état led by Greek officers in the National Guard, under orders from Athens. The fierce fighting that broke out resulted in casualties estimated at over 500, but the lightly armed Tactical Police Reserve and irregular pro-Makarios units were no match for the heavily armed National Guardsmen and the EOKA B irregulars. Narrowly escaping capture when the presidential palace was bombarded, Makarios was flown to London from the Sovereyn Base Area at Akrotiri. Former EOKA gunman and convicted murderer Nicos Sampson, notorious for his brutality in the 1950s and 1960s, was proclaimed president. As Makarios had foreseen, but the Greek military leaders did not, Turkey reacted forcibly to the coup by landing a large number of troops on the northern coast of Cyprus. As a result, both the insurrectionary government in Cyprus and the military dictatorship in Greece fell from power.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... a/eoka.htm

Here is another excerpt from the same link that Zan provided:
The 1960 Treaty of Guarantee was signed by Great Britain, Greece, Turkey, Greek Cypriots, and the Turkish Cypriots. Article 1 states that the Treaty's purpose is to "ensure the recognition and maintenance of the independence, territorial integrity, and security of Cyprus by preventing direct or indirect partition or annexation by the guarantor states. ... It (the Republic of Cyprus) undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political union with any State whatsoever. It accordingly declares prohibited any activity likely to promote, directly or indirectly, either union with any other State or partition of the Island." Under Article IV of the Treaty, Great Britain, Greece, and Turkey all had the right to intervene on the island should the sovereignty of the island was threatened. "
What the hell is Turkey still up to some 34 years after " exercising her right of intervention !!!!!
Read all about it in tomorrows issue of AFRICA !!


Keeping you from taking the whole island and not giving a shit about us TCs thats what.......And AFRICA......YOu have pinned all your hopes on AFRICA........Please have some copies in your shop for your TC friends to read so that they can see who you really are.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

All my Turkish Cypriot friends know me as a true Cypriot that is more than ready to tell Turkey and those who consider Turkey as their motherland to piss off and go join their motherland .
My G/C friends also know me as a true Cypriot that is more than ready to tell Greece and those that consider Greece as their motherland to piss off and go join their motherland.
The two malignant cancers that STOLE MY Island not yours Zanie , my island , the island of Cyprus that belongs to ME , the one who embraces the island as my motherland , the one who embraces all Cypriots as my people the one whose signature is not containing the shit that yours does.
Time to go and join your new modern world foreigner . Cyprus belongs to ALL Cypriots . This is why my T/C friends respect me because Im a genuine CYPRIOT , to hell with foreign bloody motherlands , I have my own.


Go march with your Greek flag and your Greek national anthem but wash before you go to meet my TC brothers...At least only your breath will stink then......You are a hypocrite mate and I am not in the mood to massage your ego and your false Cypriotness.....When you are ready to give me my rights under the Zurich agreement in full then I will hug you as a fellow Cypriot...Until then you are just another supporter of the GReek coup that took my rights away from me.... :evil:

When you are ready to embrace Cyprus and call it YOUR MOTHERLAND , then YOU WILL HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EVERY SINGLE INTCH OF CYPRUS.
For as long as your motherland is Turkey YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO MY ISLAND .
Tell your bullshit to those whose tolerance when it comes to nonsense is high , I do not tolerate fools easily.
Every one on this forum knows my views on foreign f..ng flags , Greek or Turkish as well as bloody foreign anthems like Greek or Turkish , get it through your thick scull , I'm a Cypriot .
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