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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:47 pm

eracles wrote:Zan, sorry mate, you've lost this one.


How did you come to that conclusion :? :? :?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:48 pm

zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:57 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.


She has her opinions and in the vein of your comment wasn't Denktas of the past also.....Maybe...just maybe I agree with her in this article and others......She pointed out the press in this one and am I right in saying she has pointed out the politicians in others.....Who in their right mind would be against reunifcation under the right conditions..
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Postby halil » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:37 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.


you are wrong on this one Tim ,
Yenidüzen and Afrika (Avrupa) always published this kind of the writings during the Denktash Time as well .

have a look archives of these papers .
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:38 pm

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) There is saying in Turkish about where some people get there information from but I will not bother to say it!!!! :roll:
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:48 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.

No need to mention either, that Zan's "glorious" Denktash regime had arranged and assassinated her brother in law, journalist Kutlu Atali, for speaking up his mind!
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:50 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.

No need to mention either, that Zan's "glorious" Denktash regime had arranged and assassinated her brother in law, journalist Kutlu Atali, for speaking up his mind!


That should clear the good name of EOKA then...Drat and double drat!!! :roll: :roll:
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:01 pm

zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.

No need to mention either, that Zan's "glorious" Denktash regime had arranged and assassinated her brother in law, journalist Kutlu Atali, for speaking up his mind!


That should clear the good name of EOKA then...Drat and double drat!!! :roll: :roll:


Zan, up until Cyprus was about to joined the EU, and this is something that many TCs will verify to you, there was absolutely no need to fire journalists in the north, for going against the mainstream policy of the regime and their bosses.

You simply arranged for their assassination instead, or planted a bomb under their car or in their offices, or at best had them thrown in jail under some false and warped accusations.

PS: And always never forget that the "midnight express" was a real scenario movie, and of course all about your "motherland!"
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:06 pm

Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Uludag was not employed by Fileleftheros, she submitted articles on a freelance basis. The use of the word "fired" here is misleading.


But adequate....We no longer require your services?...Stick your articles where the sun don't shine? :? Either write what we say or bugger off?????? :? :?


Do you think the Daily Telegraph publishes articles by Marxists? All freelance journalists face this kind of pressure to toe the paper's editorial line or not be published. As Nikitas says, her work appears in other Greek Cypriot publications.


Did they publish her before this particular article Tim???


I haven't a clue mate. Given your proclivity for digging up news items from years ago and making a song and dance about them, this could date from any time.

By the way, are you aware that Uludag is a passionate supporter of reconciliation who believes that Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are capable of living together in peace and harmony? Far from complaining about Fileleftheros not publishing her, maybe you should be complaining that Yeni Duzen publishes articles by her on a daily basis. It couldn't have happened when Denktash was in charge.

No need to mention either, that Zan's "glorious" Denktash regime had arranged and assassinated her brother in law, journalist Kutlu Atali, for speaking up his mind!


That should clear the good name of EOKA then...Drat and double drat!!! :roll: :roll:


Zan, up until Cyprus was about to joined the EU, and this is something that many TCs will verify to you, there was absolutely no need to fire journalists in the north, for going against the mainstream policy of the regime and their bosses.

You simply arranged for their assassination instead, or planted a bomb under their car or in their offices, or at best had them thrown in jail under some false and warped accusations.

PS: And always never forget that the "midnight express" was a real scenario movie, and of course all about your "motherland!"


I am glad that you added that bit about Midnight Express because many have been the victim of this rumour and it seems your turn has come....Shows how you think and how thorough you are with your research......Look, listen and learn...From the man himself!!!!





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Postby EricSeans » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:42 pm

"Perhaps the basic problem of our mainstream media on either side is that they are too much attached to the official agenda of the ruling political parties and choose that way instead of taking the difficult path of questioning the rhetoric and the ideology behind that rhetoric in circulation."


To me as a journalist this is the crucial passage in Uludag's piece. If no major circulation newspaper in Cyprus treats its readership as adults, presents the facts as it should do and lets the readers up their own minds then history is tragically in danger of repeating itself.
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