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Vote for the President of the OCDC...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

AFTER reading the intro of this thread, who do you vote to be President of the OCDC?

Poll ended at Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:26 pm

Zan
4
8%
Halil
1
2%
Humanist
0
No votes
Deniz
16
31%
Birkibrisli
0
No votes
Kikapu
1
2%
Utu
0
No votes
Get Real!
3
6%
Oracle
12
23%
Kifeas
1
2%
Miltiades
1
2%
Kafenes
0
No votes
Richard B
1
2%
Piratis
0
No votes
Pantheman
0
No votes
Copperline
0
No votes
Jerry
0
No votes
Iceman
0
No votes
Magnus
0
No votes
BigAl
0
No votes
Paul12
0
No votes
Sotos
0
No votes
DT
1
2%
Tim Drayton
2
4%
Paphitis
0
No votes
VP
5
10%
Umit07
0
No votes
Bill Cobett
0
No votes
T_C
0
No votes
Rafaella
1
2%
Nikitas
1
2%
Bananiot
2
4%
Repulsewarrior
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 52

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:41 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Agios Ionas wrote:So Deniz is in the lead... in a poll on a forum where the majority are GC's. What does that tell you?

Could it possibly mean that in a future reunited Cyprus the Cypriot people could vote for a TC President providing he's a likable chap with a political agenda people think is good for Cyprus and Cypriots?

The question above is more or less for Zan, VP et al who obviously think such a scenario is highly unlikely.

I'm telling you it's quite possible. Not tomorrow. Not next year. But in a not so distant future. In a future where political parties are made up of people with similar political views and ideas no matter what ethnic backgrounds they have. A motley bunch of people with a common denominator. That's true democracy. :)


Agios Ionas. What it tells me is that this is a set-up.

But your comments are more than welcome. :lol:

btw, where did you get the idea that I am likable chap? I can count on two fingers the number of guys who find me likable. As for the ladies, well there is Oracle, but that is a different story. :lol:

I voted for Deniz because he is above all a gentleman and a Cypriot at that , the fact that he is a T/C is immaterial , you cast your vote for the man / woman not whether he / she is a G/C , T/C , Armenian or other.
In the UK parties elect their leader according to his / her abilities and not ethnicity .
Let us hope that one day a PanCypriot party could have a G/C , Armenian , T/C or other Cypriot as its leader.
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Postby zan » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:49 pm

Chapter 1

Let me tell you a story VP...


There are these two guys that have seen that the forum they write on has been taken over by a new morality that is working against them. Out of desperation, they go out one night and brainstorm about what to do about it. After many hours and probably some assistance they hatch a plan. The plan is to have a poll in which a president and a vice president are selected. It doesn't matter if which is which but one MUST be a TC and the other a GC. It also doesn't matter if the TC is a moderate or, as they see it anyway, a nationalist. Once the elections are over and they have everyones attention then the fireworks will start.....At first it will be a few sparks and bangs but mark my words when the final starts the whole sky will light up.

The plan is to start bombarding the unsuspecting TC with UN resolutions that have already been issued. As we already know, the UN screwed us good when they recognised the Greek Cypriots as the legal government of Cyprus contrary to the Zurich agreement. From that point on they have passed resolution after resolution on this one mistake because they have had no choice. So these two dastardly rascals knowing that think they will tie us in knots with UN resolutions. If.......If it all falls apart because the TC candidate goes against these resolutions then they still have a plan for that because it will justify their call of a BBF not being workable or any other government with our involvement for that matter....If the C candidate pulls out of office then I need not remind you what reference hey will pull out of their hats to use against us and so on and so on................................


Having drawn up the AKRITAS plan mark 2...They then set to drinking proper.....Some womanising was done and a pair of drunk yobs were released out onto the street where they made such fools of themselves that they caught the attention of the police.......Being drunk and in the grip of dutch courage...They thought they would charm the police to let them go......It was not until the pair made reference to whom they were in acquaintance with that the police realised that they had no choice but to let them go and maybe even gave them a lift home.

The following day the farce of elections on the Forum began....Unfortunately the two men got carried away with themselves and their self importance and decided to have some fun with the plan instead of carrying on with it as to plan......We now have a has been female Greek mainlander who they are trying to bring back to the fore.........And a TC that one of them has a grudge against.......The plan is lost but they don't know it...



The beginning!!!!!!




Chapter 2


GR goes over board with the votes and gives us no doubt that then votes are rigged. Who the hell would give Oracle that many votes.....Oracle? Bambolina? Pheonix? Britannia? GR? The Grim Reaper? Magnus?????????One man one vote........Not so....One man, many votes.

He then shoots another toe by asking doubters to have another poll to give this poll the vote of confidence.....Who will vote on that poll.....Oracle, Bambolina.................ect etc etc!!


Mean while back at the farm....Deniz waits patiently to resign his post and put an end to this farce. Little does he know (or does he) that is what this two scheming pair are waiting for......Oracle will take his place and hold the rest of us hostage for a very long time...Little does she know (or does she) that she will be ousted within days and made to look the scapegoat for the takeover. Like Sampson, she will have her power taken away on a visit to the hairdressers. Her name will be used as the reason it all went wrong and the real perpetrators will rein supreme with those little halos attached to their coats by their loving mothers along side their names tags.

Chapter 3

(40 years on) A hero arrives...................to be continued :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:26 pm

Deja vou 1960! Suspicions, paranoia, dementia, the list goes on… :lol:

How about we call off the election and partition the forum? :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:34 pm

I think more than anything this little exercise in "applied democracy" has shown that there are elements, at least in the TC community, that will invent, twist, misinterpret, and generally attempt to derail, any well-meaning process for the masses with the most pitiful of excuses!

What are everyone else's thoughts on this?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:41 pm

CopperLine wrote:GR sets up a self-serving poll with highly dubious basis. After the process has started and just before completion he changes the rules or the consequences..... shameless .... Did he learn his trade from Mugabe or Berlusconi ?


Why is it self-serving? If you look back at the original thread, we never really concluded as to how the other two would be selected. Some ideas were thrown around but we forgot to conclude so I've just presented everyone the 5 different scenarios possible and waited for input...

...what could be more democratic than that?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:02 pm

miltiades wrote:I voted for Deniz because he is above all a gentleman and a Cypriot at that ...

If those are your reasons then you are plain stupid. The above are great credentials for wanting to have a beer with someone, but not to moderate political debates! :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:24 pm

CBBB wrote:Can't you get Miltiades to brief Deniz at the CF London High Commission?



Hmm, I certainly miss my friend Mr Jakovou at the High Commission. :lol: Foreign Affairs calls him away. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:28 pm

CopperLine wrote:This 'vote for the 'president of the OCDC' is a classic stitch-up. If you don't accept the premise (that there shouldn't even be a 'president') and therefore don't vote, your voice is not heard. If you fear that the vote will go ahead anyway despite an illegitimate premiss, and place a vote just to be heard, then the implication is that one has accepted the legitimacy of the process.

Screwed if you don't, screwed if you do.



I hope I havent misunderstood you CpperLine. I have not voted, meaning, I suppose that I am not party to these games. :lol:

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Postby Zorba » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:29 pm

CBBB wrote:So many people invovled it must be a mass debate!

I don't want to mass debate :oops:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:32 pm

CopperLine wrote:GR sets up a self-serving poll with highly dubious basis. After the process has started and just before completion he changes the rules or the consequences..... shameless .... Did he learn his trade from Mugabe or Berlusconi ?



Polycarpous Yorgadjis and Co. in 1963
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