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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:05 pm

Nikitas wrote:Land contracts, in Cyprus as in the UK, cannot be verbal. Neither can a verbal understanding be invoked to vary a written contract. As an English judge said, a contract is either in writing or it is parole (verbal in law french), it cannot be both. This is elemnetary law of contract stuff. This supposed verbal side promise had no binding legal force whatever.

If the intention was to prevent alteration to the building Ms Ali could have had the property protected under a preservatrion order BEFORE selling, but then the price would have been compromised.

The wider problem here, regardless of the historic value of the particular house, is the more general attitude and policy, both in the north and south, that every inch of land can be subject to this thing they call "development". We are all going to regret this voraciousness of the "developer".


Hear, hear.
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Postby halil » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:26 pm

Cyprus Republic honours Ihsan Ali
10/11/2003


The unveiling ceremony of the bust of Dr Ihsan Ali, pacifist and genuine advocate of Greco-Turkish friendship and cooperation, took place last Saturday in Paphos.

Addressing the ceremony on behalf of the Cyprus Government, Interior Minister Mr Andreas Christou said the Republic was honouring the scientist and visionary who had fought for the peaceful coexistence and solidarity of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities.

“The vision and struggles of Dr Ihsan Ali for the salvation of our common country remain the vision and goal of all Cypriots”, Mr Christou noted and called on Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots to work together for a peaceful and united Cyprus.
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Postby DT. » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:29 pm

Another barbaric act by the Government of Cyprus. :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:34 pm

The only busts I like are these showing the SHM.


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All others are idolatry. Blasphemy.
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:02 pm

Nikitas wrote:Land contracts, in Cyprus as in the UK, cannot be verbal. Neither can a verbal understanding be invoked to vary a written contract. As an English judge said, a contract is either in writing or it is parole (verbal in law french), it cannot be both. This is elemnetary law of contract stuff. This supposed verbal side promise had no binding legal force whatever.

If the intention was to prevent alteration to the building Ms Ali could have had the property protected under a preservatrion order BEFORE selling, but then the price would have been compromised.

The wider problem here, regardless of the historic value of the particular house, is the more general attitude and policy, both in the north and south, that every inch of land can be subject to this thing they call "development". We are all going to regret this voraciousness of the "developer".


Her statement was only added as an explanation and not a legal one. She was naive. That is clear. The article is about who to blame for the destruction of such an important part of Cypriot history, and that blame is in the hands of the developer and the councils involved.....It should not be left to an individual to decide such matters and it is clear that either no one cared or there is a lack of systematic protection measures. OR.....Deliberate erasing of history.........These are the accusations and not in the hands of a woman selling her property, whether she had a verbal agreement or not.


I agree with you entirely on the other point which in fact marries with my point above.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:41 am

The minister of the interior, now having egg on his face, came out yesterday and promised that the civil servants involved would be dealt with. But that it too little too late in the case of this building as in the case of other historic and cultural landmarks.

Unfortunately we are following the path of both of our motherlands in the matter of town planning and our modern cultural heritage and this is not a good sign.

In both the south and the north large chunks of land, the seafront, even urban centers, are being given over to private firms to develop. The plans for Limassol and Larnaca are good examples. The plans call for high buildings on the seafront. A planning error which has been noticed in other Mediterranean countries and reversed in modern town plans.

As for the Ali house in Pafos, now is the chance to save face and do something to restore credibility. My opinion is that is should be purchased from the developer and turned into a park/community center or other communal use in Ali's memory and leave the developing part aside. We will see how this case develops.
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