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PETITION AGAINST FOREIGN GUARANTEES OVER CYPRUS!

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Postby halil » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:28 pm

Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:31 pm

halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.
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Postby umit07 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.
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Postby halil » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:48 pm

umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:49 pm

halil wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .


The Treaty of Guarantee was 1 of many reasons why the Annan Plan was rejected and it will again be a reason for the failure of these talks.
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Postby umit07 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.




Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .


The Treaty of Guarantee was 1 of many reasons why the Annan Plan was rejected and it will again be a reason for the failure of these talks.




Intentions are the important thing here, if both sides are sure about their intentions a middle way can always be found.

Many GC's here say that in the EU their will be no need for these sort of treaties if so why not for example keep them in place until Turkey also joins the EU. Another soln may be solidly defining the nature and procedure of any military intervention.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:57 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .


The Treaty of Guarantee was 1 of many reasons why the Annan Plan was rejected and it will again be a reason for the failure of these talks.


I am sure that Christofias will be glad that you told the world that......Expect PM from DT!!!!! :wink: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:13 pm

zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .


The Treaty of Guarantee was 1 of many reasons why the Annan Plan was rejected and it will again be a reason for the failure of these talks.


I am sure that Christofias will be glad that you told the world that......Expect PM from DT!!!!! :wink: :lol:


Well, I am expecting the talks to eventually collapse. But if they do not, it will be a very hard sell tabling a solution to the Cypriot People which includes a Treaty of Guarantee. The end result is still the same.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:Halil and Halil's will be in Cyprus for over !

to want guarantees and to be Cypriot is completly different thing . u are always mixing the people needs and demands .for you , you may not need but i do .it is my personal idea .

we never said ,me and Miltiades has got similiar ideas .many times i said it in here don't blame him for my actions . we can have a different ideas or saying as a civilised individuals we can live together .we never talk about war . Like above post saying .
majority of the Turkish Cypriots wants guarantees of Turkey . It is our free will .you can have your own will as well .


Then it is our free will to reject any plan that includes Guarantees.


Nobody is forcing anyone into accepting anything. In the end both sides will vote for anything that comes out of the talks.


It is correct Umit , no one forcing them and no one can force us or blackmailing us .

The İssue of guarantees is not the problem of the two leaders .the issue of guarantees and draw attention to the fact that the rights steamming from the 1960 treaties only concernn the guarentetor powers too .


The Treaty of Guarantee was 1 of many reasons why the Annan Plan was rejected and it will again be a reason for the failure of these talks.


I am sure that Christofias will be glad that you told the world that......Expect PM from DT!!!!! :wink: :lol:


Well, I am expecting the talks to eventually collapse. But if they do not, it will be a very hard sell tabling a solution to the Cypriot People which includes a Treaty of Guarantee. The end result is still the same.


All Makarios supporters that were marked for early burial would vote with the TCs. :wink:


It is up to Christofias to sell the only deal on the table to his people if he is not to be branded like the receptionists before him. There is no easy way out of this.
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The Russians

Postby cymart » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:29 pm

No way do we want them in Cyprus!Ask anyone from the Baltic States or former East Germany how they treat people in any country they occupy!
Putin is no more than a former K.G.B. despot with far too much power!
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