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Postby zan » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:17 pm

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HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:22 pm

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:45 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:It will be worth it to see the reaction of the GCs when they have the case thrown out.


It'll be even better when 100,000 turk settlers get the boot too! :lol: :lol:


The only way for people like you is to leave your racist views and negotiate their departure.


Typical turkish hypocrite, its ok for you to enjoy the looks on the GCs faces when they have been denied their human rights, but then a shot at you and suddenly we are all racists. Cheek!


You are a prime example of a racist.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:01 pm

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:09 pm

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:


What utter crap to cover up the fact that you, 100% do not belong on Cyprus, and not 1% of Cyprus, should be occupied by you and your barbaric invader kin.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:It will be worth it to see the reaction of the GCs when they have the case thrown out.


It'll be even better when 100,000 turk settlers get the boot too! :lol: :lol:


The only way for people like you is to leave your racist views and negotiate their departure.


Typical turkish hypocrite, its ok for you to enjoy the looks on the GCs faces when they have been denied their human rights, but then a shot at you and suddenly we are all racists. Cheek!


You are a prime example of a racist.


And you VP, with the blood of the GCs on your invader's hands, and the 200,000 ethnically cleansed natives of the Island which you and your people invaded many times over, and still hold against all Human Rights and International Laws ... what does that make you? ... you archetypal hateful creation! How dare you feign triumphant stupidity to call anyone a racist with the crimes you are committing every second you are alive!
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:15 pm

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:


What utter crap to cover up the fact that you, 100% do not belong on Cyprus, and not 1% of Cyprus, should be occupied by you and your barbaric invader kin.



Well A pure Greek would say that wouldn't she......Get off my island Greek :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:26 pm

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:


What utter crap to cover up the fact that you, 100% do not belong on Cyprus, and not 1% of Cyprus, should be occupied by you and your barbaric invader kin.



Well A pure Greek would say that wouldn't she......Get off my island Greek :evil:


If I was pure Greek, I would still have 100% right to be here ... Where do you come from with a father from Anatolia, and living in the UK to tell me Cyprus is your Island when the UN, EU and every other organisation is telling you to remove your invading brethren from these shores?
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:29 pm

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:


What utter crap to cover up the fact that you, 100% do not belong on Cyprus, and not 1% of Cyprus, should be occupied by you and your barbaric invader kin.



Well A pure Greek would say that wouldn't she......Get off my island Greek :evil:


If I was pure Greek, I would still have 100% right to be here ... Where do you come from with a father from Anatolia, and living in the UK to tell me Cyprus is your Island when the UN, EU and every other organisation is telling you to remove your invading brethren from these shores?


I think your GC cousins would have something to say about that...Get off my island Greek.... :twisted:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:32 pm

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
HE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) might decide to strike out pending Greek Cypriot cases against Turkey once a political settlement is reached


This is why a solution should be a real solution that would actually solve the problems. If a true solution is reached then there will be no problems any more and therefore no need for ECHR.

If however we agree to something which is not the solution just because that somehting is the only currently available alternative, then we will end up with somehting worst than what we have now. If we agree for somehting like the Annan plan for example, not only the Turks will achieve the partition they wanted, but Turkey will be totally off the hook and they will not have to pay a cent.

And when those refugees will not get their properties back and they will not get any compensations, who are they going to sue? Who is going to be responsible?

Allowing Turkey to get off the hook without first returning our own lands under our own control would be the biggest mistake ever.


If they follow your stupid ideas then I will be the first to take the "RoC" and Greece to court for my losses....... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Zan ... you have no losses ... the mere fact any of your people are still on Cyprus is a plus for your people ... let alone in illegal possession of nearly half our Island!


So which part of you is saying that...The one little bit from Cyprus or the large part from Greece...You shouldn't even be on this Forum Oracle...You were ousted (Supposedly) in 1974 by the GCs... :twisted:


What utter crap to cover up the fact that you, 100% do not belong on Cyprus, and not 1% of Cyprus, should be occupied by you and your barbaric invader kin.



Well A pure Greek would say that wouldn't she......Get off my island Greek :evil:


If I was pure Greek, I would still have 100% right to be here ... Where do you come from with a father from Anatolia, and living in the UK to tell me Cyprus is your Island when the UN, EU and every other organisation is telling you to remove your invading brethren from these shores?


I think your GC cousins would have something to say about that...Get off my island Greek.... :twisted:


My GC cousins are not partial to Anatolian Turks such as you Zan ... you have been hiding long enough! And nor is the EU or UN ... you are outnumbered London/Anatolian boy! :lol: ... no earthly reason to call yourself a Cypriot ...
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