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[Get Real!]

Why is that important? Do the least modernized deserve the death penalty for lagging in technology? Is that why the US and UK are out killing them in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Pakistan? Perhaps having too much technology and power has a reverse effect on man… it takes him right back to animal status it seems.

Very true GR, if both you and I agree on this one, then perhaps you might seriously reconsider going back on your suggestion about acquiring high-tech missiles from Mother Russia and praising how deadly they are. So that would save you from being taken right back to animal status

Cyprus is a sovereign country as dictated by the UN and thus has the right to defend herself and her territory, which is currently under an illegal occupation, and so has every right to purchase military hardware to be used towards such an option.

The US/UK, and Israel however, are not defending their territory but attacking the territories of others!

I hope that you are now able to differentiate between a barbarian and a patriot.

[Cem]

Why is that important? Do the least modernized deserve the death penalty for lagging in technology? Is that why the US and UK are out killing them in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Pakistan? Perhaps having too much technology and power has a reverse effect on man… it takes him right back to animal status it seems.

Very true GR, if both you and I agree on this one, then perhaps you might seriously reconsider going back on your suggestion about acquiring high-tech missiles from Mother Russia and praising how deadly they are. So that would save you from being taken right back to animal status

Cyprus is a sovereign country as dictated by the UN and thus has the right to defend herself and her territory, which is currently under an illegal occupation, and so has every right to purchase military hardware to be used towards such an option.

The US/UK, and Israel however, are not defending their territory but attacking the territories of others!

I hope that you are now able to differentiate between a barbarian and a patriot.[/

Patriot as below ????

[Oracle]

Because, other than this, Israel stands way ahead, out by a mile compared to Greece, Turkey, Cyprus even E.U all combined in terms of their people's (jews) contribution to humanity and civilization..

How does Israel stand way ahead by a mile compared to Greece/Cyprus?

Do you know there are a mere 12 Million Jews in the entire world yet they have received 182 Nobel Prizes.

The Jewish People, meanwhile, will continue being the Lights Unto All Nations.

I am not jewish, but I say "SHALOM" to you, ISRAEL.

Please avoid getting the Jews of the world mixed up with the people of Israel!

There may be an outstanding number of Jews receiving Nobel Prizes ... but most of them are/were not living in Israel ....

http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/mo ... story.html

[Cem]

How does Israel stand way ahead by a mile compared to Greece/Cyprus?

Please avoid getting the Jews of the world mixed up with the people of Israel!

There may be an outstanding number of Jews receiving Nobel Prizes ... but most of them are/were not living in Israel ....
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/mo ... story.html

1) Let's start with education, if you like. Kindly have a look at the following:

http://www.webometrics.info/top100_cont ... ont=europe

Summary:

40. Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
63 Tel Aviv University.
75 Weizmann Institute of Science.
84 Technion Israel Institute of Technology.

against

87 National Technical University of Athens. (only one in top 100 in Europe)

Cyprus is excused due to its sheer size.

And this above is merely a tiny drop in the ocean. More will be on the way as far as other items are concerned.

just be patient !

2) On the contrary, could you, please include people of Hellenic roots all around the world in your count, and make your comparaison accordingly ?

The existence of jewish diaspora around the world does not make them less Israeli as they are all potential candidates for citizenship and have been already contributing to Israel from where they are.

3) Did you, yourself pay attention to the last sentence in the link you provided ?

"So much of our intellectual capital and our Jewish ingenuity is channeled to our defense needs rather than to things that are measured by the Nobel," he says. "The years spent under straining conditions in the army are the formative years. It takes a toll."

It says it all, in other words the opportunity cost of having to live under constant war threats, while allowing Israelis to have competitive edge in advanced weaponry, reduces their output in civilian areas on the other hand.

Still, there are plenty of Israelis (not diaspora jews) gobbling up Nobel prizes and are in the forefront of world research agenda.

I can come up with other resources, you just itch for it !

In the meantime, try to get familiar with the following turkish sentence:

Acittimi Cicim ?

[zan]

YEH YEH YEH...So bloody what...The Italians are the greatest lovers in the world.....Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!

[Oracle]

It says it all, in other words the opportunity cost of having to live under constant war threats, while allowing Israelis to have competitive edge in advanced weaponry, reduces their output in civilian areas on the other hand.

Precisely! .... it is for this same reason output from the Hellenic world has decreased .... starting from the appearance of the Ottomans ... up to and including the present day perpetual threat from Turkey.

[zan]

It says it all, in other words the opportunity cost of having to live under constant war threats, while allowing Israelis to have competitive edge in advanced weaponry, reduces their output in civilian areas on the other hand.

Precisely! .... it is for this same reason output from the Hellenic world has decreased .... starting from the appearance of the Ottomans ... up to and including the present day perpetual threat from Turkey.

Clap trap is trading well from there though..Up 200 points....

[Eurasia]

If Cyprus had the support that Israel has had from certain states,the Cyprus problem would have been solved, or Cyprus would have been destroyed completely,take your pick

[utu]

It's ironic in a way. Pakistan was created as a Muslim homeland from the former British India. Israel was created as a Jewish homeland from the former Britsh Palestine Mandate. Those countries have a lot in common, yet, Pakistan hates Israel with a passion. Cyprus was supposed to be a middle road: a country that could have a peaceful existence between Greek and Turk peoples. Look what resulted from that...

[Oracle]

It's ironic in a way. Pakistan was created as a Muslim homeland from the former British India. Israel was created as a Jewish homeland from the former Britsh Palestine Mandate. Those countries have a lot in common, yet, Pakistan hates Israel with a passion. Cyprus was supposed to be a middle road: a country that could have a peaceful existence between Greek and Turk peoples. Look what resulted from that...

Cyprus did not come into existence to satisfy some political aspirations.

Cyprus and its native population has been around long before these divisive religions were formulated ....