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Postby Get Real! » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:29 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I thought I told you to wipe your face? :?

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Excellent boys , you are doing well .!!!
Cant tell which is which , is Rambo the one with big ears ? :lol:
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Sorry Milfy, but you’re bleeding too much… gotta stop this fight!

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Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:35 pm

Do we have any paramedics? Doctors? Please!!!!

Anyone? Milfy does not have a lot of time left!!


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Postby Cem » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:Cem,

Spare the forum from your Zionist propaganda, the source of which you forgot to quote, and now you’ve got shallow idiots like Miltiades thinking that your “speech” was really cool… 24 carat gold even!

http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html

http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html


…24 carat rubbish is a better description. :lol:


Shalom Cem!


What matters is not from which website I quoted these, it is to which extent they reflect the truth is important.

True or false whether these people (jews) are out ahead by a mile EVEN compared to your fabulous hellenic civilization in terms of contribution to humanity and civilization ?

True or false whether there exists a true democracy amidst tens of arab countries in the middle east. Or isn't it simply what we have are nothing but a bunch of theocracies themselves or military dictatorships ?

Theocracies which deny the basic human rights to half of their people, that is women.

What is exactly the standing of muslim countries vis-a-vis their christian counterparts in science, technology, medicine, etc..??

And how christian countries fare against that tiny spot of a country called Israel ?

If Masada is a propaganda site, then what about that one ?:

http://www.jinfo.org/.

Take your time to browse through its pages and...

Now, tell me dear Hellenic Crusader or Rambo-Mambo , as well as you Pantheman, what you will be seeing at this website, is it bullshit as well ?

BTW, GetReal, aren't you the one who has been preaching warmongering by extolling the virtues of some crack missiles in an eventual armed conflict with Turkey ?

Why are so keen on reducing the lifestyle of your fellow GCs to that of the Flinstones. ?

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Thanks for the Shalom, I reciprocate by merely calling your nickname:

GetReal please GETREAL !
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:11 pm

As you can see Cem , we both have our crackpots . Extremists who would rejoice at the sound of explosions , would celebrate the commencement of war , they are confusing patriotism with bravado , not an ounce of common sense between them .
They are both Aussies really , one born there the other one ...almost , one in Cyprus the other down under , I wonder if all G/C Australians are as ...intelligent as these two stooges !!
I do however want to remind you that GR wasnt just talking about striking deep into Turkey but was also contemplating taking on Israel and liberating the Palestinian lands , with some help obviously , that of the American Mercenaries ...Breakwater or is it Blackwater !!!
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Postby Cem » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:35 pm

miltiades wrote:As you can see Cem , we both have our crackpots . Extremists who would rejoice at the sound of explosions , would celebrate the commencement of war , they are confusing patriotism with bravado , not an ounce of common sense between them .
They are both Aussies really , one born there the other one ...almost , one in Cyprus the other down under , I wonder if all G/C Australians are as ...intelligent as these two stooges !!
I do however want to remind you that GR wasnt just talking about striking deep into Turkey but was also contemplating taking on Israel and liberating the Palestinian lands , with some help obviously , that of the American Mercenaries ...Breakwater or is it Blackwater !!!


Thanks Miltiades.

I must point out that I am neither Pro-American nor Anti-Britt.
Definitely not a Zionist either.

But I do have an admiration for the people of Israel, thinking how it must be difficult for them to uphold and manage a democracy and transform an arid land into a one agri-business export area, while having to live under constant war conditions and facing animosity not only from her neighbours but also from the allied anti-semites all over the world.

On the other hand, I found a common ground with Paphitis in condemning British "Divide and Rule" policy applied worldwide and had to deal with some British Supremacist braying here all the way from New Zealand.

That does not necessarily make me Anti-Britt, I simply found his remarks so offending particularly concerning catholics and anything non-anglo-saxon and non-protestant that I decided to make his life here in CF a hell.

As far as CyProb is concerned I have made my commitment to EU's role in helping to solve this issue within its premises and I hope that both you and Paphitis join me at that point.

As for GR, he could strike deep into Turkey and liberate the Palestinian land only in a video or playstation game.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:16 pm

I have always been Pro American and a staunch supporter of the West and the values it upholds , equality human rights , freedom of speech and religious choice , beleive or not believe , such values , when threatened by those whose interpretation of an ideology deep rooted in medieval times dictate the destruction of the Western world , must be protected by those who value liberty and freedom .
These fundamental and priceless human values are not to be found anywhere in the Middle East , honour murders , discrimination against women , vulgar and repellent treatment of rape victims are just some of the reasons why the West , Israel included , are committed to ensuring that our values remain safe .
I have always supported the right of Palestinians to their own state but have also supported the right of Israel to exist . I have supported the right of the Palestinians to a peaceful and free existence in their own state. Likewise I supported the same right for the Israelites.
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Postby Cem » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:06 pm

miltiades wrote:I have always been Pro American and a staunch supporter of the West and the values it upholds , equality human rights , freedom of speech and religious choice , beleive or not believe , such values , when threatened by those whose interpretation of an ideology deep rooted in medieval times dictate the destruction of the Western world , must be protected by those who value liberty and freedom .
These fundamental and priceless human values are not to be found anywhere in the Middle East , honour murders , discrimination against women , vulgar and repellent treatment of rape victims are just some of the reasons why the West , Israel included , are committed to ensuring that our values remain safe .
I have always supported the right of Palestinians to their own state but have also supported the right of Israel to exist . I have supported the right of the Palestinians to a peaceful and free existence in their own state. Likewise I supported the same right for the Israelites.


Well, at the moment I am a bit sour with the USA over their foreign policy and support of "mild islam" in turkey as this latter unfortunately starts spreading to North of Cyprus

The majority of turks in turkey on the other hand ,getting increasingly jingoistic and islamist at the same time have also turned anti-semites as well, over Israel's policy of supporting a Kurdish state in the North of Iraq.

Not to mention the popularity of an unjustifiable alliance with the arabs regarding the palestinians all because of a common faith (islam).

Strangely, at this point such turks find a striking common ground with anti-western GCs such as GR here and some extremist Greeks in Greece.

Anyway, we all can have differing opinions as well as similar ones. At the end of the day, I value freedom of expression and religious choice (being an atheist) over anything in the world.

I love Cyprus and my wife, and enjoy good wine, caring for my three kittens in the backyard of my garden, also a fan of mystery movies such as Columbo.

I prefer tranquility of suburbs and rural areas to the hassle of big metropolitan centers and very nostalgic about 1960s movies and Brigitte Bardot.

So as they say in Italian, " I Gusti e i Colori non si discutonno".
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:18 pm

Cem wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have always been Pro American and a staunch supporter of the West and the values it upholds , equality human rights , freedom of speech and religious choice , beleive or not believe , such values , when threatened by those whose interpretation of an ideology deep rooted in medieval times dictate the destruction of the Western world , must be protected by those who value liberty and freedom .
These fundamental and priceless human values are not to be found anywhere in the Middle East , honour murders , discrimination against women , vulgar and repellent treatment of rape victims are just some of the reasons why the West , Israel included , are committed to ensuring that our values remain safe .
I have always supported the right of Palestinians to their own state but have also supported the right of Israel to exist . I have supported the right of the Palestinians to a peaceful and free existence in their own state. Likewise I supported the same right for the Israelites.


Well, at the moment I am a bit sour with the USA over their foreign policy and support of "mild islam" in turkey as this latter unfortunately starts spreading to North of Cyprus

The majority of turks in turkey on the other hand ,getting increasingly jingoistic and islamist at the same time have also turned anti-semites as well, over Israel's policy of supporting a Kurdish state in the North of Iraq.

Not to mention the popularity of an unjustifiable alliance with the arabs regarding the palestinians all because of a common faith (islam).

Strangely, at this point such turks find a striking common ground with anti-western GCs such as GR here and some extremist Greeks in Greece.

Anyway, we all can have differing opinions as well as similar ones. At the end of the day, I value freedom of expression and religious choice (being an atheist) over anything in the world.

I love Cyprus and my wife, and enjoy good wine, caring for my three kittens in the backyard of my garden, also a fan of mystery movies such as Columbo.

I prefer tranquility of suburbs and rural areas to the hassle of big metropolitan centers and very nostalgic about 1960s movies and Brigitte Bardot.

So as they say in Italian, " I Gusti e i Colori non si discutonno".

We definitely have something in common then !! Good wine!! And we both love Cyprus , where in the world are you Cem ?
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Postby Eurasia » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:40 pm

The problem is one of birth.Where you are born will ultimately determine your beliefs..All nations have the truth on there side,or so they like to think.God also sides with the victor as they are the historians of the future.
Now it is up to us on the sidelines to choose our side and hope we are backing the truth.
Cyprus and Israel....well they are nothing alike.Why?
Simply because we do not share common political interests,each has it's own agenda and self interest and on the whole they do not see eye to eye.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:07 pm

Eurasia wrote:The problem is one of birth.Where you are born will ultimately determine your beliefs..All nations have the truth on there side,or so they like to think.God also sides with the victor as they are the historians of the future.
Now it is up to us on the sidelines to choose our side and hope we are backing the truth.
Cyprus and Israel....well they are nothing alike.Why?
Simply because we do not share common political interests,each has it's own agenda and self interest and on the whole they do not see eye to eye.

No one can pre determine the place of their birth but all can determine their own beliefs and actions.
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