Sorry Milfy, but you’re bleeding too much… gotta stop this fight!
Get Real! wrote:Cem,
Spare the forum from your Zionist propaganda, the source of which you forgot to quote, and now you’ve got shallow idiots like Miltiades thinking that your “speech” was really cool… 24 carat gold even!
http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
…24 carat rubbish is a better description.
Shalom Cem!
miltiades wrote:As you can see Cem , we both have our crackpots . Extremists who would rejoice at the sound of explosions , would celebrate the commencement of war , they are confusing patriotism with bravado , not an ounce of common sense between them .
They are both Aussies really , one born there the other one ...almost , one in Cyprus the other down under , I wonder if all G/C Australians are as ...intelligent as these two stooges !!
I do however want to remind you that GR wasnt just talking about striking deep into Turkey but was also contemplating taking on Israel and liberating the Palestinian lands , with some help obviously , that of the American Mercenaries ...Breakwater or is it Blackwater !!!
miltiades wrote:I have always been Pro American and a staunch supporter of the West and the values it upholds , equality human rights , freedom of speech and religious choice , beleive or not believe , such values , when threatened by those whose interpretation of an ideology deep rooted in medieval times dictate the destruction of the Western world , must be protected by those who value liberty and freedom .
These fundamental and priceless human values are not to be found anywhere in the Middle East , honour murders , discrimination against women , vulgar and repellent treatment of rape victims are just some of the reasons why the West , Israel included , are committed to ensuring that our values remain safe .
I have always supported the right of Palestinians to their own state but have also supported the right of Israel to exist . I have supported the right of the Palestinians to a peaceful and free existence in their own state. Likewise I supported the same right for the Israelites.
Cem wrote:miltiades wrote:I have always been Pro American and a staunch supporter of the West and the values it upholds , equality human rights , freedom of speech and religious choice , beleive or not believe , such values , when threatened by those whose interpretation of an ideology deep rooted in medieval times dictate the destruction of the Western world , must be protected by those who value liberty and freedom .
These fundamental and priceless human values are not to be found anywhere in the Middle East , honour murders , discrimination against women , vulgar and repellent treatment of rape victims are just some of the reasons why the West , Israel included , are committed to ensuring that our values remain safe .
I have always supported the right of Palestinians to their own state but have also supported the right of Israel to exist . I have supported the right of the Palestinians to a peaceful and free existence in their own state. Likewise I supported the same right for the Israelites.
Well, at the moment I am a bit sour with the USA over their foreign policy and support of "mild islam" in turkey as this latter unfortunately starts spreading to North of Cyprus
The majority of turks in turkey on the other hand ,getting increasingly jingoistic and islamist at the same time have also turned anti-semites as well, over Israel's policy of supporting a Kurdish state in the North of Iraq.
Not to mention the popularity of an unjustifiable alliance with the arabs regarding the palestinians all because of a common faith (islam).
Strangely, at this point such turks find a striking common ground with anti-western GCs such as GR here and some extremist Greeks in Greece.
Anyway, we all can have differing opinions as well as similar ones. At the end of the day, I value freedom of expression and religious choice (being an atheist) over anything in the world.
I love Cyprus and my wife, and enjoy good wine, caring for my three kittens in the backyard of my garden, also a fan of mystery movies such as Columbo.
I prefer tranquility of suburbs and rural areas to the hassle of big metropolitan centers and very nostalgic about 1960s movies and Brigitte Bardot.
So as they say in Italian, " I Gusti e i Colori non si discutonno".
Eurasia wrote:The problem is one of birth.Where you are born will ultimately determine your beliefs..All nations have the truth on there side,or so they like to think.God also sides with the victor as they are the historians of the future.
Now it is up to us on the sidelines to choose our side and hope we are backing the truth.
Cyprus and Israel....well they are nothing alike.Why?
Simply because we do not share common political interests,each has it's own agenda and self interest and on the whole they do not see eye to eye.
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