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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:08 pm

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Well Zan, the path to peace and reconciliation is full of booby traps. You have to make a personal decision whether you want to act provocatively or with sensitivity to your neighbours. My family came from mixed villages, we celebrated each others special occasions, Christmas and Easter wasn't unbearable for us nor Ramadan for them. We all have to make a decision about our personal behaviour towards our neighbours. Being Cypriot I believe you would make the correct decision according to your conscience,


Religion and the overall message of religion is one thing mehmet because it is a message of peace but what sort of message will be received in the case of Makarios or Attaturk.


Really Zan, you disappoint me. Do you start this thread just to provoke, you ask a question, you get some answers but not the ones you expected and then you post an article to seek to prove that some in our communities are intolerant of each others cultures.

We already know that.

And as the article went on to say he was subject to judicial procedures.

My point remains the same, what personal sacrifice are you prepared to make in the name of a peaceful united Cyprus? Personally I can stomach Makarios though not Grivas. Who knows we might get statues of Cat Stevens, George Michael, Peter Andre instead. For our part we can offer Tracy Emin and her artworks as a gesture of reconciliation.

Welcome back Mehmet , and an excellent post. I'm afraid though you are wasting your time with Zan , you see he is besoted with Turkey , Enosis , TPap , Makarios , Grivas and any other euphemistically used description to prove to himself that only a total absorption of Cyprus by Turkey is worth anything. Unlike you and I who want a united Cyprus ruled by Cypriots for the benefit of Cypriots he wants his "motherland" Turkey to assimilate AND AT THE SAME TIME ELIMINATE THE T/Cs , all will be called TURKISH , NO T/C any more.



It is so easy for you to forget because everything you list are the things and persons that happened to us..The TCs......ut when i ask you to forget 1974 and the refugees and everything your lot suffered then it's a different story........You are the master of double standards and the seller of rubbish Chinese Knives.......You have no shame as a salesman and it shows in your attitude towards my people. you take the Greek line with your dismissals and then pretend to be the TCs friend.......Not everyone is fooled Miltiades.

What a blithering idiot you turned out to be !
Your are not only full of hatred your full of shit too. You never lived those years you Plonker you were not even born stupid so how come you know so much , Oh I know your grandmother told you. My levels of tolerance when it comes to stupidity ARE very low so do me a favour piss off to Turkey and leave the Cypriots to do their own thing . Sorry , I forgot , you are still in the UK suffering all the hostility and racial discrimination !!!
How dare you stupid insult my integrity , the people that know me understand fully what I stand for .

ps.How many Chinese knives did you buy from me !!
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Postby zan » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:15 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
mehmet wrote:
mehmet wrote:
Well Zan, the path to peace and reconciliation is full of booby traps. You have to make a personal decision whether you want to act provocatively or with sensitivity to your neighbours. My family came from mixed villages, we celebrated each others special occasions, Christmas and Easter wasn't unbearable for us nor Ramadan for them. We all have to make a decision about our personal behaviour towards our neighbours. Being Cypriot I believe you would make the correct decision according to your conscience,


Religion and the overall message of religion is one thing mehmet because it is a message of peace but what sort of message will be received in the case of Makarios or Attaturk.


Really Zan, you disappoint me. Do you start this thread just to provoke, you ask a question, you get some answers but not the ones you expected and then you post an article to seek to prove that some in our communities are intolerant of each others cultures.

We already know that.

And as the article went on to say he was subject to judicial procedures.

My point remains the same, what personal sacrifice are you prepared to make in the name of a peaceful united Cyprus? Personally I can stomach Makarios though not Grivas. Who knows we might get statues of Cat Stevens, George Michael, Peter Andre instead. For our part we can offer Tracy Emin and her artworks as a gesture of reconciliation.

Welcome back Mehmet , and an excellent post. I'm afraid though you are wasting your time with Zan , you see he is besoted with Turkey , Enosis , TPap , Makarios , Grivas and any other euphemistically used description to prove to himself that only a total absorption of Cyprus by Turkey is worth anything. Unlike you and I who want a united Cyprus ruled by Cypriots for the benefit of Cypriots he wants his "motherland" Turkey to assimilate AND AT THE SAME TIME ELIMINATE THE T/Cs , all will be called TURKISH , NO T/C any more.



It is so easy for you to forget because everything you list are the things and persons that happened to us..The TCs......ut when i ask you to forget 1974 and the refugees and everything your lot suffered then it's a different story........You are the master of double standards and the seller of rubbish Chinese Knives.......You have no shame as a salesman and it shows in your attitude towards my people. you take the Greek line with your dismissals and then pretend to be the TCs friend.......Not everyone is fooled Miltiades.

What a blithering idiot you turned out to be !
Your are not only full of hatred your full of shit too. You never lived those years you Plonker you were not even born stupid so how come you know so much , Oh I know your grandmother told you. My levels of tolerance when it comes to stupidity ARE very low so do me a favour piss off to Turkey and leave the Cypriots to do their own thing . Sorry , I forgot , you are still in the UK suffering all the hostility and racial discrimination !!!
How dare you stupid insult my integrity , the people that know me understand fully what I stand for .

ps.How many Chinese knives did you buy from me !!


I didn't buy any Chinese knives but I warned off a few that thought about it...... 8) 8) 8)



What year wasn't I born in then Miltiades...Please enlighten me???? :idea:
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:22 pm

I'm working on a sketch for a new statue for Elefteria Square - Babbou Miltiades on a Donkey with a Loudhailer.

(Er, it is Friday night and hope M takes this lightly :D)
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Postby zan » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:36 pm

bill cobbett wrote:I'm working on a sketch for a new statue for Elefteria Square - Babbou Miltiades on a Donkey with a Loudhailer.

(Er, it is Friday night and hope M takes this lightly :D)


Who's holding the loud hailer...Miltiades has got his hands full....hick!!!! :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:49 pm

zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:I'm working on a sketch for a new statue for Elefteria Square - Babbou Miltiades on a Donkey with a Loudhailer.

(Er, it is Friday night and hope M takes this lightly :D)


Who's holding the loud hailer...Miltiades has got his hands full....hick!!!! :lol:


Zan, you "..blithering idiot..", nice one :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:08 am

"Kocatepe and Sakarya (in Larnaka), would be highly imflammatory to the Greeks (Hellenic). That was where the flame of the Megalo Idea was extinguished (1922). "

Isn't Kocatep a destroyer of the best navy in Nato, which was sunk by the best air force in Nato in 1974?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:11 am

Yes it is.

It got the name from the hilltop where Mustafa Kemal was commanding the battles against the Greek invaders in 1922.

Koca Tepe = Great Hill
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:35 am

I bet it is nowhere near as high as Kaimak Chalan.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:36 am

Who in his right mind would ever name a ship after a mountain!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:23 am

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
mehmet wrote:
mehmet wrote:
Well Zan, the path to peace and reconciliation is full of booby traps. You have to make a personal decision whether you want to act provocatively or with sensitivity to your neighbours. My family came from mixed villages, we celebrated each others special occasions, Christmas and Easter wasn't unbearable for us nor Ramadan for them. We all have to make a decision about our personal behaviour towards our neighbours. Being Cypriot I believe you would make the correct decision according to your conscience,


Religion and the overall message of religion is one thing mehmet because it is a message of peace but what sort of message will be received in the case of Makarios or Attaturk.


Really Zan, you disappoint me. Do you start this thread just to provoke, you ask a question, you get some answers but not the ones you expected and then you post an article to seek to prove that some in our communities are intolerant of each others cultures.

We already know that.

And as the article went on to say he was subject to judicial procedures.

My point remains the same, what personal sacrifice are you prepared to make in the name of a peaceful united Cyprus? Personally I can stomach Makarios though not Grivas. Who knows we might get statues of Cat Stevens, George Michael, Peter Andre instead. For our part we can offer Tracy Emin and her artworks as a gesture of reconciliation.

Welcome back Mehmet , and an excellent post. I'm afraid though you are wasting your time with Zan , you see he is besoted with Turkey , Enosis , TPap , Makarios , Grivas and any other euphemistically used description to prove to himself that only a total absorption of Cyprus by Turkey is worth anything. Unlike you and I who want a united Cyprus ruled by Cypriots for the benefit of Cypriots he wants his "motherland" Turkey to assimilate AND AT THE SAME TIME ELIMINATE THE T/Cs , all will be called TURKISH , NO T/C any more.



It is so easy for you to forget because everything you list are the things and persons that happened to us..The TCs......ut when i ask you to forget 1974 and the refugees and everything your lot suffered then it's a different story........You are the master of double standards and the seller of rubbish Chinese Knives.......You have no shame as a salesman and it shows in your attitude towards my people. you take the Greek line with your dismissals and then pretend to be the TCs friend.......Not everyone is fooled Miltiades.

What a blithering idiot you turned out to be !
Your are not only full of hatred your full of shit too. You never lived those years you Plonker you were not even born stupid so how come you know so much , Oh I know your grandmother told you. My levels of tolerance when it comes to stupidity ARE very low so do me a favour piss off to Turkey and leave the Cypriots to do their own thing . Sorry , I forgot , you are still in the UK suffering all the hostility and racial discrimination !!!
How dare you stupid insult my integrity , the people that know me understand fully what I stand for .

ps.How many Chinese knives did you buy from me !!


I didn't buy any Chinese knives but I warned off a few that thought about it...... 8) 8) 8)



What year wasn't I born in then Miltiades...Please enlighten me???? :idea:

SO this is why my Chinese knife sales have plumetted !!!
As for the year of your birth , well lets see you came to the UK I believe you said at the age of 2 , in 1965 , therefore you were not around during the conflict , you also mentioned on a number of occasions that as a child growing up in the UK you had to endure discrimination , something that I who was 15 when arrived in the UK NEVER encountered , perhaps it is in your nature to imagine adverse events hence your focus on the propaganda sites that proclaim that the T/Cs were being butchered in Cyprus from 1922 up to the Turkish invasion !!!
You have one and one goal , the annexation of a part of Cyprus by Turkey , since on your own admission you experience racial harassment in the UK , IMAGINARY , and you have the erroneous belief that being amongst the Turks of Turkey ,( there will be no T/Cs left ) it will somehow exonerate all the perceived and imaginary harassment you went through in the UK.
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