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[halil]

President Mehmet Ali Talat stated that Greek Cypriots need solution as much as Turkish Cypriots. Referring to the developments in Kosovo, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Talat said: “When recent developments are taken into account, events dreaded by Greek Cypriots are around the corner. Therefore, their need or desire for solution should be incited.

President Talat was speaking during a programme on the TRT 2 channel. The President stated that he maintains his optimism regarding a solution in Cyprus.

Talat underlined that political equality is very important for Turkish Cypriots. “The political equality of the two peoples is of utmost importance,” stated Talat. “Political equality will be between the peoples. The states will be of equal status.”

“The structure of the government is not as important as the competences of the federal government,” said Talat. “The important thing is the competences of the Turkish Cypriot people. We will only define federal competences. The rest will be vested in the Constituent States.”

Asked to comment on Christofias` statement that he will not make any concessions, Talat said:

“It is not possible to reach an agreement without being flexible and without making concessions. Everyone knows this. He will make concessions and we will make concessions. This is the right thing. Not making concessions is out of question.”

Talat said that they aim a comprehensive settlement and added that the agreement will be put to referendum.

President Talat said that the former Greek Cypriot Leader Tassos Papadopoulos had used the Guarantee and Alliance Agreements and the Turkish army as excuses to reject the Annan Plan. Talat stated that the Guarantee and Alliance Agreements is an international agreement and added that the agreement may be changed only if all the parties agree.

Talat noted that property issue will be the most difficult issue in negotiations since it concerns every single individual. President Talat said that the property issue should be solved through a formula approved by both sides.

[miltiades]

Keep our fingers crossed !

[Viewpoint]

Dont hold your breath Miltiades.

[Piratis]

Yet more blackmails from the invading Turks who keep our land as hostage and are trying to force us to accept their terms.

It is a clear indication that this talks will also fail because the Turks are not willing to give back what they illegally stole. If this is their aim then they should make it clear from now, since the goverment of Cyprus has other things to deal with, and they do not have time to waste with puppet self declared "presidents" and similar crap.

[Viewpoint]

Yet more blackmails from the invading Turks who keep our land as hostage and are trying to force us to accept their terms.

It is a clear indication that this talks will also fail because the Turks are not willing to give back what they illegally stole. If this is their aim then they should make it clear from now, since the goverment of Cyprus has other things to deal with, and they do not have time to waste with puppet self declared "presidents" and similar crap.

Why not be proactive Piratis and break off the talks.

[zan]

Yet more blackmails from the invading Turks who keep our land as hostage and are trying to force us to accept their terms.

It is a clear indication that this talks will also fail because the Turks are not willing to give back what they illegally stole. If this is their aim then they should make it clear from now, since the goverment of Cyprus has other things to deal with, and they do not have time to waste with puppet self declared "presidents" and similar crap.

Your land did not starve as we did and your land did not suffer as we did.

[utu]

Yet more blackmails from the invading Turks who keep our land as hostage and are trying to force us to accept their terms.

It is a clear indication that this talks will also fail because the Turks are not willing to give back what they illegally stole. If this is their aim then they should make it clear from now, since the goverment of Cyprus has other things to deal with, and they do not have time to waste with puppet self declared "presidents" and similar crap.

Let's just see how things develop. Your cynicism is well-founded, but let's not abandon all hope. With developments such as Kosovo, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia raising their ugly heads on the international arena, things needs to have a chance to work, or else the north of Cyprus will be permanently lost.

[Piratis]

Yet more blackmails from the invading Turks who keep our land as hostage and are trying to force us to accept their terms.

It is a clear indication that this talks will also fail because the Turks are not willing to give back what they illegally stole. If this is their aim then they should make it clear from now, since the goverment of Cyprus has other things to deal with, and they do not have time to waste with puppet self declared "presidents" and similar crap.

Let's just see how things develop. Your cynicism is well-founded, but let's not abandon all hope. With developments such as Kosovo, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia raising their ugly heads on the international arena, things needs to have a chance to work, or else the north of Cyprus will be permanently lost.

dream on.

What happened in Abkhazia, and South Ossetia happened in Cyprus 25 years ago when Turkey recognized the pseudo state. Turkey went even further by "de-recognizing" Cyprus.

Furthermore you fail to see the difference between recognizing a separate region, inhabited by a majority of separate people, and the case of Cyprus which is one country invading another, ethnically cleansing the overwhelming majority of its native population, replacing them with foreign settlers and then declaring this illegally occupied part as they own.

If there is one that should worry with the cases you mentioned above that is Turkey with Kurdistan, since the Kurdistan case is much closer to those examples.

Your land did not starve as we did and your land did not suffer as we did.

The Greek Cypriots suffered, and they suffered more and for way longer time than you did. So what is your point? That you are the innocent ones who have to be rewarded by stealing our lands?

[utu]

dream on.

What happened in Abkhazia, and South Ossetia happened in Cyprus 25 years ago when Turkey recognized the pseudo state. Turkey went even further by "de-recognizing" Cyprus.

Furthermore you fail to see the difference between recognizing a separate region, inhabited by a majority of separate people, and the case of Cyprus which is one country invading another, ethnically cleansing the overwhelming majority of its native population, replacing them with foreign settlers and then declaring this illegally occupied part as they own.

If there is one that should worry with the cases you mentioned above that is Turkey with Kurdistan, since the Kurdistan case is much closer to those examples.

Piratis, I don't forsee de jure partition as a dream, it's more of a nightmare. It's also not helping that people like you are not giving the negotiations a chance to work. Let's see what comes out of it before abandoing all hope.
In any case, ethnic cleansing - whether imposed by an ouside invader or imposed by a majority population against a minority in its own country - is something that should be completely opposed. Whatever results, let's not have Turkey continue to occupy Cypriot soil, nor have the Turkish Cypriot minority live in fear of the Greek Cypriot majority.

[Paphitis]

What do we have to look forward to in a solution? Our democratic rights being violated by 18% of the population who want a 50% power share? That there will be no freedom of movement on the island? That we will have to accept the TA having a permanent foothold on the island? A partnership state with a false entity that is almost broke? The GCs being discriminated against when contesting public sector jobs.

What is in it for us? Absolutely nothing!! :(

Do the Turks seriously think that we will ever accept such a solution?

President Christofias looks like he is letting his people down. He is not fighting for the needs of the GCs and conceding everything. He is losing face in front of the GC electorate.

These talks are finished already.

Perhaps it is time to start thinking about permanent agreed partition on a 18%-82% basis, and with no residency or VISA rights for the TCs so that they do not try and settle in the RoC. We can build a great big concrete wall on the border and be done with it!!

Abkhazia and South Ossetia will play absolutely no role in our decision making. The same scare tactics were used against us when Kosovo was recognised. Scare tactics will not work.

If the TCs thought there was any chance for recognition of "trnc", then they would not be negotiating right now.