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[GeorgeV97qaue]

I read this article today by the EU Enlargement Minister. It seems the TC wont be able to have it their own way as the solution must be based on EU principles. So that means the TC's will not be able to stop GC's from moving back North. No rascist constitution can be put in place like the Annan Plan where only limited numbers of GC's allowed to return North.

http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2

REHN: CYPRUS SOLUTION - EU

EU Commissioner for Enlargement Olli Rehn said a Cyprus settlement should imply a bizonal, bicommunal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant UN Security Council resolutions, and should respect EU founding principles.

The Finnish Commissioner referred to the Cyprus problem on Thursday in a speech titled ``The EU and the Western Balkans: The Critical Year of 2009``, at a conference on the EU and the Western Balkans, which was organised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

``There is finally serious movement towards the reunification of Cyprus. The EU supports the efforts of the leaders of both communities to achieve a comprehensive settlement under the auspices of the UN. The Commission is ready to contribute to a UN settlement process with its expertise in matters of EU relevance,`` Rehn said.

He noted that ``the EU can accept any solution agreed by the two communities, as long as a united Cyprus respects the Union`s founding principles of liberty, democracy and the rule of law, and is able to carry the obligations of EU membership.``

``This implies a bizonal, bicommunal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant UN Security Council resolutions,`` he concluded.

[Get Real!]

By its very nature a “bizonal, bicommunal federation” is TWO RACIAL ENCLAVES so I don’t know how he can boast about the “founding principles of liberty and democracy” in the same speech!

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Yes you are correct GR regarding BBF but my interpretation of what he is saying no restrictions for GC's who want to go back to their homes they were forced out of in 1974.

The Annan plan was not compatable with the EU principles. Basicly the EU are saying TC's if you want in you need to allow GC's back to their lands.

[denizaksulu]

How can it be ' 2 racial enclaves' when you are allowed TCS and GCs to be able to choose where they would like to live? or isnt that the case?

[DT.]

How can it be ' 2 racial enclaves' when you are allowed TCS and GCs to be able to choose where they would like to live? or isnt that the case?

In order to gaurantee tc majority in the north there will be a "quota" of how many GC's can live in the north state.

[Nikitas]

"How can it be ' 2 racial enclaves' when you are allowed TCS and GCs to be able to choose where they would like to live? or isnt that the case?"

Which is what I have been asking of BBF proponents, especially Bananiot, and I am not getting any answer. The funny thing is that if there was a guarantee of free residence most people would support it. But as long as we bullshit about, keeping "cards closed" or reverting to those idiotic formulas of the Annan plan, people are rightly suspicious.

Like me, Deniz, your primary concern is if you can reside in Anglisides, as I want to reside in Famagusta and have access to Karpasia. The rest is important but secondary. This is what is unclear so far.

[denizaksulu]

"How can it be ' 2 racial enclaves' when you are allowed TCS and GCs to be able to choose where they would like to live? or isnt that the case?"

Which is what I have been asking of BBF proponents, especially Bananiot, and I am not getting any answer. The funny thing is that if there was a guarantee of free residence most people would support it. But as long as we bullshit about, keeping "cards closed" or reverting to those idiotic formulas of the Annan plan, people are rightly suspicious.

Like me, Deniz, your primary concern is if you can reside in Anglisides, as I want to reside in Famagusta and have access to Karpasia. The rest is important but secondary. This is what is unclear so far.

The whole of the island ought to be accessible to the whole population with rights to their lands.

The rights to their homes is a more delicate matter. This is where things will get very complicated. Its not just a matter of you move out and I move in. May the 'Power' help us.

[roseandchan]

get real! your back. long time no speak.

i say bring it on for the e.u principles, we are fed up with being treated as third class citizens here in the north.

[Get Real!]

Yes you are correct GR regarding BBF but my interpretation of what he is saying no restrictions for GC's who want to go back to their homes they were forced out of in 1974.

The Annan plan was not compatable with the EU principles. Basicly the EU are saying TC's if you want in you need to allow GC's back to their lands.

If the very principle of this constitution is racist; a “community” based arrangement with exclusive boundaries, what difference does it make if citizens are “allowed” to live wherever they wish on paper but in practice stick to their enclave for safety and acceptance?

What kind of racist regressive shit is this in the 21st century???

[Paphitis]

Where is the democracy when 18% of the population will have a 50% power share?

The Turks are also insisting on a Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey. So here we are, an EU country, who will be under the guarantorship of Turkey, which is torn between Islam and Secularism!!

As far as I am concerned, the peace talks are already over!!!