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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:53 pm

Deniz that how the Annan plan envisaged a solution. TC's would only accept a percentage of GC's in the North.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:54 pm

I think it is being made very clear that any solution must adhere to the principles of the EU. That means that there cannot be exclusions from the EU acquis. Just as Turkey can't apply the EU acquis a-la-carte then it stands to reason that the TC's can't either.

What the negotiations will boil down to is the time frame in which the EU acquis will take full effect in Cyprus after the solution is agreed. The Annan provisions stated that the implementation of the solution would take 19 years to implement. The Annan plan had many holes in it which would allow the implementation of the plan to be challenged in EU courts.

There can be no permanet exclusions from the acquis that the Turks seem to want. It simply can't happen and the Turkish side needs to understand and appreciate this aspect. This issue cannot be negotiated.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:00 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:Deniz that how the Annan plan envisaged a solution. TC's would only accept a percentage of GC's in the North.



I am aware of that. Thats why when I reas the first document produced, i said there is no way the GCs will accept this plan. The proposed BBF in my mind will not work as it stands. It will only lead to further strife. It was not what I had in mind as an everlasting solution.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:00 pm

Mikkie well said mate totally agree with you. This is the reason why the Annan plan was rejected. GC's were not allowed feedom of movement in their own country. I would accept a solution where TC's can adminster the North but all GC's being allowed to return if they wish. No limits nothing.

I'm affraid that will not happen though so me thinks no EU for TC's just continued isolation as they put it which is a shame. Both people can live together I know they can. Forget the past. Everyone knows what happened.

The problem we have though is people like Zan and Oracle just keep spouting the same old lines which doesnt help the current climate.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:01 pm

I hope you are right Mikkie, but the Turks are even asking the EU to ratify certain exceptions for Cyprus from the EU acquis. The Turks seem to be very confident and arrogant at the moment. They seem to think that it is their God given right to circumvent freedom of movement and basic democratic principles.

If there is a certain time frame in which the EU acquis is implemented in Cyprus, then Turkey should not be allowed entry into the EU until the acquis is fully implemented.
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Postby roseandchan » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:04 pm

basic democratic principles, will never happen here in the north.
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Postby DT. » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:05 pm

Turkey will never agree to a solution where primary law is not agreed.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:08 pm

Then it mean no EU for Turkey or TC's.

This also means no return to my fathers birth place Famagusta. Dam shame really.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:13 pm

I really feel for the poor TCs who will never know what it is like to be free and to share the wealth of the EU and all the opportunities that arise.

It really is a great shame. :(
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:15 pm

Paphitis wrote:I really feel for the poor TCs who will never know what it is like to be free and to share the wealth of the EU and all the opportunities that arise.

It really is a great shame. :(


At the end of the day Paphitis it also means we cant return to our homes. I have never been to famagusta which is real shame as I always wanted to see where my father grew up. Which for me is heart breaking.
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