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[miltiades]

I suppose I am interested what the poll question was.

Was it

'Do we need the Turkish army for our security/protection?' or

Do we need the Turkish Army to ensre our future security instead of the guarantees provided by any peace deal or a million other questions come to mind.

I think we will have to ask VP , but his wording was " Do you trust the Turkish army "

[denizaksulu]

I suppose I am interested what the poll question was.

Was it

'Do we need the Turkish army for our security/protection?' or

Do we need the Turkish Army to ensre our future security instead of the guarantees provided by any peace deal or a million other questions come to mind.

I think we will have to ask VP , but his wording was " Do you trust the Turkish army "

"Do you trust the Turkish Army......................." what? it can mean so many things. The way the question is asked can be so 'leading'. Even , polls on this forum fall beside the roadside with simple questions like that.

Its a pity they were not more specific. I am trying to undestand what the pollsters were answering to.

As we know, 'POLLS' are a useful tool in the right/wrong hands.

[Paphitis]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

[Paphitis]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

I was just following your very own interpretation of the poll question. And now you say that I am not asking the right question?

Must be a habit contradicting yourself!

I will take your reply as a no comment! As I initially predicted.

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

I was just following your very own interpretation of the poll question. And now you say that I am not asking the right question?

Must be a habit contradicting yourself!

I will take your reply as a no comment! As I initially predicted.

It is not a NO COMMENT answer. Do you always jump the gun?

I was pointing out the.....................oh never mind.


I trust the Turkish Army to leave after a peace settlement where the security of the peoples of Cyprus are guaranteed under the flag of the EU.

That is my desire also, if it means peaceful co-existence with my fellow Cypriots.

[Paphitis]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

I was just following your very own interpretation of the poll question. And now you say that I am not asking the right question?

Must be a habit contradicting yourself!

I will take your reply as a no comment! As I initially predicted.

It is not a NO COMMENT answer. Do you always jump the gun?

I was pointing out the.....................oh never mind.


I trust the Turkish Army to leave after a peace settlement where the security of the peoples of Cyprus are guaranteed under the flag of the EU.

That is my desire also, if it means peaceful co-existence with my fellow Cypriots.

Yes I know what you were trying to point out.

Thanks for your answer BTW.

The no coment remark was designed to get a straight answer!

You are a remarkably flippant individual afterall!

[denizaksulu]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

I was just following your very own interpretation of the poll question. And now you say that I am not asking the right question?

Must be a habit contradicting yourself!

I will take your reply as a no comment! As I initially predicted.

It is not a NO COMMENT answer. Do you always jump the gun?

I was pointing out the.....................oh never mind.


I trust the Turkish Army to leave after a peace settlement where the security of the peoples of Cyprus are guaranteed under the flag of the EU.

That is my desire also, if it means peaceful co-existence with my fellow Cypriots.

Yes I know what you were trying to point out.

Thanks for your answer BTW.

The no coment remark was designed to get a straight answer!

You are a remarkably flippant individual afterall!

Thanks a lot Tim Drayton

[Tim Drayton]

Miltiades, I am a bit confused as to what you are getting at. One may trust the Turkish army, but still want them out. or vice versa. Not rust them but still want them in Cyprus.

What exactly do you mean by 'trust'. Could you please clear this up? I know you are great with figures (not human) but the word itself is a problem.

I can not wait until we discuss it over coffee as I am too busy these days.

Regards

DA

So Deniz,

which category do you belong to?

Do you trust the TA and want them to stay?

Do you not trust the TA and still want them to stay?

Do you trust the TA but want them to go?

Do you not trust the TA and what them to go?

Or do you wish to make no comment?

You have failed to ask the right question Bafidis.

I was just following your very own interpretation of the poll question. And now you say that I am not asking the right question?

Must be a habit contradicting yourself!

I will take your reply as a no comment! As I initially predicted.

It is not a NO COMMENT answer. Do you always jump the gun?

I was pointing out the.....................oh never mind.


I trust the Turkish Army to leave after a peace settlement where the security of the peoples of Cyprus are guaranteed under the flag of the EU.

That is my desire also, if it means peaceful co-existence with my fellow Cypriots.

Yes I know what you were trying to point out.

Thanks for your answer BTW.

The no coment remark was designed to get a straight answer!

You are a remarkably flippant individual afterall!

Thanks a lot Tim Drayton

I accused you of being facetious, not flippant, and only did so in order to refute the allegation, because I know that you are a perfect gentleman.

[Oracle]

According to VP , a recent poll carried out in the occupied parts showed that 76% of those polled Did trust the Turkish army , 24% Did not.
A quick analysis of these figures throws up some interesting thoughts.
One must presume that the poll was carried out at random , as polls normally do , and one must also presume that the poll was representative of all citizens . One can therefore safely and quite correctly assume that from those polled some 65% were settlers and Turkish army personnel and 35% of those polled were indigenous T/Cs.
Given the figure that 24% of the total poll Did not trust the Turkish army we can safely assume that the 24% was made up entirely of T/Cs therefore we can assume that from 1000 polled , 350 were indigenous T/Cs out of which number we can again assume that 240 , ie 24% , did not trust the Turkish army , turn this figure into a percentage and it shows that the overwhelming majority , 70% of indigenous T/Cs Do No Trust the Turkish army. VP posted the results of the poll , I simply based my calculations on the figures provided. If we allow a 10% margin of error the net result still shows that the overwhelming majority of T/Cs do not thrust the Turkish army , ie they want it , as per the graffiti writers , to sod off.

Lies, damned lies and statistics ... talk about massaging the numbers to provide your wish-fulfillment Accountants should be the last people to analyses statistics. Your presumptions are breathtaking in their reckless impetuousness.

Really Miltiades, the polls taken in the north were discredited for their poor reliability and there you are on top of that disclosure, making further foolhardy deductions to fit your hypothesis that the TCs somehow think how you want them to.