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[zan]

I know Tpap writes GR's little speeches but who is pulling this guys strings...

[Paphitis]

And before all you Lovey Dovey Tree Huggers jump on my back, perhaps one of you can explain what is in it for us to even be giving Talat the time of day?

HOPE

Give Christofias a chance to prove himself. You are sounding desperate.

He already has!!

[denizaksulu]

I know Tpap writes GR's little speeches but who is pulling this guys strings...

...and I thought it was the other way round. Anyway, what does it matter. Its all a load.

[Paphitis]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

[zan]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

OOOH! If times were that good.....

[Paphitis]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

OOOH! If times were that good.....

Make sure you don't sit on the remote. You don't want to lose it up some orifice.

[zan]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

OOOH! If times were that good.....

Make sure you don't sit on the remote. You don't want to lose it up some orifice.

How else is a girl to get any pleasure

[Paphitis]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

OOOH! If times were that good.....

Make sure you don't sit on the remote. You don't want to lose it up some orifice.

How else is a girl to get any pleasure

Why don't you just give Miltiades a ring. The 2 of you would make the perfect couple.

[Agios Ionas]

A new war is the last thing this island is in need of. The scars of yesteryear can and will heal eventually although it will take a long time. The 34 years of no solution is proof enough that time is needed badly. But a new war will open an ugly bleeding wound that won't heal in a foreseeable future. New generations will be poisoned by hate and violence, not in the form of tales of the past, but rather first hand experience. Enough people have suffered already, and many are still suffering. I mean, seriously, who the f*ck cares about a plot of land if you've lost your child to a bomb or bullet? It doesn't matter if that plot of land is worth £5 million. The lives of your children has no price tag!

As much as I want Turkish forces out of Cyprus and a reunited island where GC and TC can co-exist peacefully and equally I would never call for a war. The only war I'd possibly condone would be if GC and TC alike joined forces and tried to expel Turkish forces from the island in order to free Cyprus and give it back to its natural citizens. Still, the price would be very high. Personally, although I have no death wish, I'd be willing to risk my life for something bigger than me. But I would never allow a situation where my family is put to danger. I would engage an entire army on my own if necessary. But I would make sure my wife and children are in a safe place first. Quite frankly, I think the chances of a GC/TC joint effort to fight off Turkey and win are less than Turkey collapsing on her own one day. So I guess it's better to wait and watch her destroy herself than to challenge her and end up with Cyprus being 100% Turkish. The Cypriots (GC/TC) surviving would be in for a very hard time. Because Turkey would oppress and punish as if there was no tomorrow.

A new war would ruin the whole of Cyprus for a very long period, long enough for us, our children and grandchildren to be miserable for our entire lives. A new war would cause instability in the whole EU. Forget about a flourishing tourist business for a considerable amount of years. It will take much longer than it did last time to achieve some kind of trustworthy stability to allow for the "outer world" to want to do business with and visit Cyprus.

Some people keep harping about the Ottoman connection and seem stuck in 1571. +400 years is a long time, no one of us were existing back then. I would say that if your family have been in a country for that long, you belong in said country. No matter if you're a descendant of an invader. Anyone must admit that +400 years down the line the descendants are hardly responsible of what their ancestors did. We can hardly choose where to be born and by whom.

We can keep blaming people for what they did 34 years ago because it's still quite recent and people involved in the atrocities are still alive. But +400 years ago? Come on, somewhere a line must be drawn and some things must be considered history. I mean, where would the UK be if people were still fighting about who's Saxon and Norman?

What are you people asking for war thinking? It's enough suffering in the world already. Why are you so keen on bringing it on your own doorstep? Cyprus is in need of peace, not war.

[zan]

Are you sitting on your second hand IKEA sofa?

OOOH! If times were that good.....

Make sure you don't sit on the remote. You don't want to lose it up some orifice.

How else is a girl to get any pleasure

Why don't you just give Miltiades a ring. The 2 of you would make the perfect couple.

He is waaaaaaaay to remote for me