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The future of TCs.

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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:17 am

Big Al wrote:
Get Real! wrote:If we can’t live under Democracy, Turkey is to always be meddling in our affairs, the land is not to go back to their rightful owners, the island will be carved, and Cypriotness does not exist because GCs are nothing but some insignificant people who appeared on Cyprus out of nowhere just a few decades ago…

…then what the HELL is Christofias doing wasting our time and tax money with these pointless and laughable “negotiations”???


GR, what the hell are you doing back on this forum???, you wrote an very long, drawn out and boring speech about why you were leaving and now you're back. In my opinion you have zero credibility left and therefore anything you say/write also has no credibility. You say one thing and do another, and you want us to take you seriously???

It is YOUR people’s credibility this thread brings to question and it’s no surprise to GR you had nothing relevant to say.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:19 am

BirKibrisli wrote:Big Al.....You and I agreed on something at last...This is a cause to celebrate...The only thing to do with warmongers is to ignore them...
If people ignored Hitler at the time,or just laughed at him,humanity wouldn't have had to go through the Second world war...Likewise with Mussolini,Stalin,Pol Pot et al....The forces of Good ,the forces of Love,the forces of Peace always triumphs over the forces of Evil,Hatred,and War....
History tells us so....If we only know how to read it... :wink: :) :arrow:

:shock: Ignore them???

You ignore the Greek Cypriots asking what’s in it for them in this “deal” and you call yourself a peacemaker?

Think again…
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Postby Big Al » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:52 am

Get Real! wrote:
Big Al wrote:
Get Real! wrote:If we can’t live under Democracy, Turkey is to always be meddling in our affairs, the land is not to go back to their rightful owners, the island will be carved, and Cypriotness does not exist because GCs are nothing but some insignificant people who appeared on Cyprus out of nowhere just a few decades ago…

…then what the HELL is Christofias doing wasting our time and tax money with these pointless and laughable “negotiations”???


GR, what the hell are you doing back on this forum???, you wrote an very long, drawn out and boring speech about why you were leaving and now you're back. In my opinion you have zero credibility left and therefore anything you say/write also has no credibility. You say one thing and do another, and you want us to take you seriously???

It is YOUR people’s credibility this thread brings to question and it’s no surprise to GR you had nothing relevant to say.


Oh your back again GR, you wouldnt know whether you're arthur or martha, whether you're going or staying, left or right, up or down, male/female, yes/no, black/white.... all the same to you....poor bugger is confused.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:57 am

We have covered this scenario before .
Our war will continue against the occupation of Cyprus i=only this on going war is a political one with immense political power behind it , supported by the EU on whose territory the Turkish troops are based. We have a substantial number and a growing one of T/Cs who , just as we do , want the occupying troops out and a solution based on democratic principles and human rights. Turkey is being sent very clear messages from the T/Cs who unlike Zan , consider Cyprus as their motherland . We can not bring the reality and the horrors of military action against a nation of 80 million , a war that from the outset would be doomed to invoke the largest by far catastrophe on our island , a catastrophe that would be irreversible for generations to come.
We are at an advantage with the political war being waged currently , the EU has already expressed its wishes that the Turkish army withdraw from its territory , it will support us and it will equally support the T/Cs in demanding the removal of the occupying troops .Zan and the other extremists "Turkish motherland" perpetrators are not representative of the T/C people any more than Oracle or GR are representative of the G/C people.
We can win the political war but can not win a military war that would generate the required result , which must be , one island , one nation , troops out human rights for all guaranteed by the EU and the UN.

GR refers to the T/Cs as remnants of the Ottoman empire , a slight correction here , T/Cs who have as their motherland their country , Cyprus , are just as indigenous to this nation as he and I are . Those whose allegiance and demands are in line with Zan'ss ie , annexation or permanent partition of our island and considerer Turkey as their motherland , then my advice to them would be to depart and search , as Zan is doing right now , this modern and brave new world of their motherland. You can not expect the Cypriots to stand by and watch their island eaten up by Turkey. The political war will continue and believe me it will intensify . A solution must be agreed upon based on the will of the people , the Cypriot people .
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Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:01 am

Big Al wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Big Al wrote:
Get Real! wrote:If we can’t live under Democracy, Turkey is to always be meddling in our affairs, the land is not to go back to their rightful owners, the island will be carved, and Cypriotness does not exist because GCs are nothing but some insignificant people who appeared on Cyprus out of nowhere just a few decades ago…

…then what the HELL is Christofias doing wasting our time and tax money with these pointless and laughable “negotiations”???


GR, what the hell are you doing back on this forum???, you wrote an very long, drawn out and boring speech about why you were leaving and now you're back. In my opinion you have zero credibility left and therefore anything you say/write also has no credibility. You say one thing and do another, and you want us to take you seriously???

It is YOUR people’s credibility this thread brings to question and it’s no surprise to GR you had nothing relevant to say.


Oh your back again GR, you wouldnt know whether you're arthur or martha, whether you're going or staying, left or right, up or down, male/female, yes/no, black/white.... all the same to you....poor bugger is confused.

You have NO right to interfere in the affairs of Cyprus , your motherland is Turkey by your own admission , go join it. Now as we all know , my words are being written on the walls of occupied Nicosia , in the pages of AFRICA , uttered by the true T/Cs throughout the occupied lands , and the words are , Turkish troops out . Follow them mate , this here island is Cyprus not Anatolia .
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:18 am

miltiades wrote:We have covered this scenario before .
Our war will continue against the occupation of Cyprus i=only this on going war is a political one with immense political power behind it , supported by the EU on whose territory the Turkish troops are based. We have a substantial number and a growing one of T/Cs who , just as we do , want the occupying troops out and a solution based on democratic principles and human rights. Turkey is being sent very clear messages from the T/Cs who unlike Zan , consider Cyprus as their motherland . We can not bring the reality and the horrors of military action against a nation of 80 million , a war that from the outset would be doomed to invoke the largest by far catastrophe on our island , a catastrophe that would be irreversible for generations to come.
We are at an advantage with the political war being waged currently , the EU has already expressed its wishes that the Turkish army withdraw from its territory , it will support us and it will equally support the T/Cs in demanding the removal of the occupying troops .Zan and the other extremists "Turkish motherland" perpetrators are not representative of the T/C people any more than Oracle or GR are representative of the G/C people.
We can win the political war but can not win a military war that would generate the required result , which must be , one island , one nation , troops out human rights for all guaranteed by the EU and the UN.

GR refers to the T/Cs as remnants of the Ottoman empire , a slight correction here , T/Cs who have as their motherland their country , Cyprus , are just as indigenous to this nation as he and I are . Those whose allegiance and demands are in line with Zan'ss ie , annexation or permanent partition of our island and considerer Turkey as their motherland , then my advice to them would be to depart and search , as Zan is doing right now , this modern and brave new world of their motherland. You can not expect the Cypriots to stand by and watch their island eaten up by Turkey. The political war will continue and believe me it will intensify . A solution must be agreed upon based on the will of the people , the Cypriot people .


GAME4:

See how many Zan's you can see in this drivel!!!!!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




I think it shows this mans obsessive behavior really well, whether it be me or booze.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:20 am

Those who have proposed the "dynamic" way out of the Cypriot impasse seem not to have thought the thing through. They give the impression of fantasizing about some epic where the national guard will bash the mehmecik in ground battles- and therein is the problem. Winning such a conflict will involve a navy and air force, or at least the means to neutralise them, and since neither of those capabilitites exist there goes the theory.

In the event of an all out conflict Cyprus will be subjected to strategic bobming. Do you people know the meaning and effect of such a tactic?

Cyprus is an island. In the event of victory against Turkey it will be blockaded by other powers with the excuse that they are protecting the TC community, while the British will be protecting their SBAs. Have you thought of these developments?

After such a hypothetical victory there will be a ong term hostility with Turkey. Have you made plans for such a protracted conflict?

In past threads I said Cyprus can succesfully defend itself against any new assault. From that point to the undertaking an offensive campaign against any country, is like night and day.

Se gentlemen, please wake up!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:29 am

Nikitas wrote:Those who have proposed the "dynamic" way out of the Cypriot impasse seem not to have thought the thing through. They give the impression of fantasizing about some epic where the national guard will bash the mehmecik in ground battles- and therein is the problem. Winning such a conflict will involve a navy and air force, or at least the means to neutralise them, and since neither of those capabilitites exist there goes the theory.

In the event of an all out conflict Cyprus will be subjected to strategic bobming. Do you people know the meaning and effect of such a tactic?

Cyprus is an island. In the event of victory against Turkey it will be blockaded by other powers with the excuse that they are protecting the TC community, while the British will be protecting their SBAs. Have you thought of these developments?

After such a hypothetical victory there will be a ong term hostility with Turkey. Have you made plans for such a protracted conflict?

In past threads I said Cyprus can succesfully defend itself against any new assault. From that point to the undertaking an offensive campaign against any country, is like night and day.

Se gentlemen, please wake up!

Thank you Nikitas , just hope you are not labeled a ....traitor !!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:31 am

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:We have covered this scenario before .
Our war will continue against the occupation of Cyprus i=only this on going war is a political one with immense political power behind it , supported by the EU on whose territory the Turkish troops are based. We have a substantial number and a growing one of T/Cs who , just as we do , want the occupying troops out and a solution based on democratic principles and human rights. Turkey is being sent very clear messages from the T/Cs who unlike Zan , consider Cyprus as their motherland . We can not bring the reality and the horrors of military action against a nation of 80 million , a war that from the outset would be doomed to invoke the largest by far catastrophe on our island , a catastrophe that would be irreversible for generations to come.
We are at an advantage with the political war being waged currently , the EU has already expressed its wishes that the Turkish army withdraw from its territory , it will support us and it will equally support the T/Cs in demanding the removal of the occupying troops .Zan and the other extremists "Turkish motherland" perpetrators are not representative of the T/C people any more than Oracle or GR are representative of the G/C people.
We can win the political war but can not win a military war that would generate the required result , which must be , one island , one nation , troops out human rights for all guaranteed by the EU and the UN.

GR refers to the T/Cs as remnants of the Ottoman empire , a slight correction here , T/Cs who have as their motherland their country , Cyprus , are just as indigenous to this nation as he and I are . Those whose allegiance and demands are in line with Zan'ss ie , annexation or permanent partition of our island and considerer Turkey as their motherland , then my advice to them would be to depart and search , as Zan is doing right now , this modern and brave new world of their motherland. You can not expect the Cypriots to stand by and watch their island eaten up by Turkey. The political war will continue and believe me it will intensify . A solution must be agreed upon based on the will of the people , the Cypriot people .


GAME4:

See how many Zan's you can see in this drivel!!!!!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




I think it shows this mans obsessive behavior really well, whether it be me or booze.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Time to call it a day Zan , motherland is waiting .... off you go son :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:35 am

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:We have covered this scenario before .
Our war will continue against the occupation of Cyprus i=only this on going war is a political one with immense political power behind it , supported by the EU on whose territory the Turkish troops are based. We have a substantial number and a growing one of T/Cs who , just as we do , want the occupying troops out and a solution based on democratic principles and human rights. Turkey is being sent very clear messages from the T/Cs who unlike Zan , consider Cyprus as their motherland . We can not bring the reality and the horrors of military action against a nation of 80 million , a war that from the outset would be doomed to invoke the largest by far catastrophe on our island , a catastrophe that would be irreversible for generations to come.
We are at an advantage with the political war being waged currently , the EU has already expressed its wishes that the Turkish army withdraw from its territory , it will support us and it will equally support the T/Cs in demanding the removal of the occupying troops .Zan and the other extremists "Turkish motherland" perpetrators are not representative of the T/C people any more than Oracle or GR are representative of the G/C people.
We can win the political war but can not win a military war that would generate the required result , which must be , one island , one nation , troops out human rights for all guaranteed by the EU and the UN.

GR refers to the T/Cs as remnants of the Ottoman empire , a slight correction here , T/Cs who have as their motherland their country , Cyprus , are just as indigenous to this nation as he and I are . Those whose allegiance and demands are in line with Zan'ss ie , annexation or permanent partition of our island and considerer Turkey as their motherland , then my advice to them would be to depart and search , as Zan is doing right now , this modern and brave new world of their motherland. You can not expect the Cypriots to stand by and watch their island eaten up by Turkey. The political war will continue and believe me it will intensify . A solution must be agreed upon based on the will of the people , the Cypriot people .


GAME4:

See how many Zan's you can see in this drivel!!!!!!! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




I think it shows this mans obsessive behavior really well, whether it be me or booze.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Time to call it a day Zan , motherland is waiting .... off you go son :lol: :lol:


I am a TURKISH CYPRIOT me old mate...I am not going anywhere.......You are not taking my country away from me by a bloody fait acompli of a non existent "RoC"......Or at the very best...A fake "RoC"....Get used to it!!!!
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