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[Viewpoint]

There is indeed a time for war , but right now time is for peace . The Cypriot people will NEVER accept any negotiated agreement put on the table that offers Turkey a part of Cyprus on the plate and neither will the people of Cyprus will accept that the occupier has a right to intervene at its pleasure. This land is European land , Turkey is not , yet , a European nation , and the EU will not sit back and accept a situation whereby Turkey is in the driving seat as regards a member nation.
A couple of years back I posted that the only people that can force Turkey out of Cyprus are the T/Cs , now it is also the EU. We are witnessing right now the beginning of the end of the Turkish occupation of a part of Cyprus . We have heard from T/Cs stating clearly that they are proud T/Cs they do NOT want to become extinct in their own country . Our fight must remain a political one and it must be intensified but not at the expense of our T/C compatriots to whom we must reach out with olive brances not guns.
Our hospitals provide care for all that require it , let the people know that any T/C can demand and receive health care , let them claim it as their entitlement and let Turkey know that this nation of Cypriots is compassionate , caring , peace loving , decent folk but determined not to capitulate and accept the loss of their sovereignty.
I opposed the AP , I hope that the next plan will be palatable to say the least .

Did you know that in a recent poll 76% trust the Turkish army so the few bandits you are so proud of do no weild much support.

Did the poll include the settlers too , if so 24% mistrusting Turkey must have been T/Cs so out of a poll of 1000 lets say , T/Cs amounted to about 300 , therefore 240 is a huge majority of T/Cs !!

However much you try to manipulate the figures in your favor the result is the same without a comprehensive solution TCs will only put their trust in the Turkish army, not the UN EU and definately not the GCs.

[Viewpoint]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

VP, Talat or any other TC leader, hardliner or not, is only a puppet! Talat is a puppet! He cannot make any decision, unless he is able to first sell it to the military and the bureaucrats of the Turkish foreign ministry!

Then he is the man in the most difficult position so Christofiyas would serve the GCs best if he was flexible enough to accomadate Talat so the he may perform the balancing acting to clinch a solution.

I do not think you should have much to complain about, when it comes to Christofias role, so far!

I agree with and as long as he stays positive and not only puts forward what just the GCs want and takes inot concisderation what TCs want then he will be going in the right direction.

[Viewpoint]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Its you that has to come to terms with the idea of sharing under a BBF with political equality, if you do not support this then tell the world as your leader appears on face value to be negotiating exactly what you dont want, so who is telling the truth Christofiays or you?

PS can you refrain from insults and act like a human being conducting a conversation Im pretty certain they taught you this besides all the brainwashing classes you took.

[Get Real!]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Get Real, if one is to take your above argument literally, then why one highly educated and rich businessman that pays millions of taxes to the state, should only have the same one vote with an unskilled poor worker that may not even qualify for paying taxes? The question is not why to share power, but how to share power!

If this "power sharing" they are demanding was proportional to their numbers then you might as well call it a democracy, thereby eliminating the need for the use of the phrase “power sharing”, but of course we all know that they are referring to a 40 if not 50% of government representation, and seeing that their numbers do not add up one could be forgiven for assuming that they must be a filthy-rich lot who understandably want to use their buying power but alas… they are bankrupt!

Would you go into business with an insolvent partner who demands 50% of control?

I would, if for some reason I knew that my partnership in the long run would multiply my wealth, regardless of the fact that this will also equally multiply this insolvent partner's wealth.

To say that you’re a speculator is an understatement… It must be something to do with the Paphian way of doing business...

The Cyprus problem is not an issue that can be view from a purely business related perspective!

True, but at the end of the day when all the dust has settled the almighty wallet shall feel the pinch for a long time to come…

[Oracle]

Kifeas is not a Paphian ...

(Is he even an Earthling? .... Perhaps some heavenly Godly Creation )

[Get Real!]

Kifeas is not a Paphian ...

(Is he even an Earthling? .... Perhaps some heavenly Godly Creation )

I understand he lives in Paphiland... no?

[Get Real!]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Its you that has to come to terms with the idea of sharing under a BBF with political equality, if you do not support this then tell the world as your leader appears on face value to be negotiating exactly what you dont want, so who is telling the truth Christofiays or you?

Look VP, don’t get too excited just because an incompetent communist has come to power as it remains to be seen if the fool will run/win in the next elections, and the way things are moving they won’t be done by then…

PS can you refrain from insults and act like a human being conducting a conversation Im pretty certain they taught you this besides all the brainwashing classes you took.

I'm a democratic man so don’t insult my intelligence and I won’t remind your lack thereof…

[Oracle]

Kifeas is not a Paphian ...

(Is he even an Earthling? .... Perhaps some heavenly Godly Creation )

I understand he lives in Paphiland... no?

Not through choice GR!

.... Listen, I'll leave you guys to sort out these Turks, 'cos kidding around is OK for a bit, but in the end we are all just burning up inside at what they have done to our countrymen, which no matter how much I annoy Kifeas (and you) about for a laugh ... in the end it is not funny!

Good luck ..... I am proud of all the GCs (except Bananiot!).

[zan]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Its you that has to come to terms with the idea of sharing under a BBF with political equality, if you do not support this then tell the world as your leader appears on face value to be negotiating exactly what you dont want, so who is telling the truth Christofiays or you?

Look VP, don’t get too excited just because an incompetent communist has come to power as it remains to be seen if the fool will run/win in the next elections, and the way things are moving they won’t be done by then…

PS can you refrain from insults and act like a human being conducting a conversation Im pretty certain they taught you this besides all the brainwashing classes you took.

I'm a democratic man so don’t insult my intelligence and I won’t remind your lack thereof…

The games go on........Good cop bad cop........Aren't you tired of always playing the bad cop GR?

[BirKibrisli]

As some wise souls have indicated,it will take great courage,tenacity and leadership skills on BOTH Talat's and Christophias' behalf to finally agree to a solution which will have to be a compromise...A solution which will be accepted by both sides in a referandum...

Fail or succeed, the march of history and humanity is always towards progress and enlightenment..This MAY be the last chance for Christophias and Talat to come to an agreement...But it will never be the last chance for Cyprus...Cypriots will get the peace they deserve sooner or later...

Just ask the slaves in America,prisoners in Soviet gulags,and consider the fates of Hitler,Mussolini,Stalin,Pol Pot et al...forces of good and compassion and reason always prevail...NEVER YOU FEAR...