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[Get Real!]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

[Oracle]

OK! ..... So we have a Lame Duck for a President and we have to rely on the EU to get us out of Turkey's stranglehold ...

Are we to just ignore all the gifts he gives to them now? How retractable will these offerings to the Turks be in future?

Are his sights set for a Nobel Peace Prize and sod the GCs?

I want a real President

Not yet! Let's wait a bit more to see where he is heading! As things stand now, both of them are in a show game of who will receive the international community's blame for the inevitable failure of the negotiations.

OK thanks Kifeas ... I really want to believe he is the culmination of all the best bits of all previous Presidents, and that he is only just testing the waters, conducting himself accordingly, and finally will not let the GCs (the majority) down in the end!

( .... a bit like me, underestimated, but lots going on under the surface )

[Kifeas]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Get Real, if one is to take your above argument literally, then why one highly educated and rich businessman that pays millions of taxes to the state, should only have the same one vote with an unskilled poor worker that may not even qualify for paying taxes? The question is not why to share power, but how to share power!

[Get Real!]

I wish to hope that all these are part of some strategy which we are not yet aware of but may only suspect, and not the result of incompetence or of any defeatist syndromes. Unfortunately, I have to also include this last one of my fears, judging from the composition of his negotiating team on this issue.

The incompetent fool known as Christofias, or Tractor Jim if you like, doesn’t know the meaning of the word “strategy” so prepare to be disappointed because all he’ll manage is to set new low levels that the RoC is prepared to sink to at Turkey’s amusement and abuse.

[Kifeas]

OK! ..... So we have a Lame Duck for a President and we have to rely on the EU to get us out of Turkey's stranglehold ...

Are we to just ignore all the gifts he gives to them now? How retractable will these offerings to the Turks be in future?

Are his sights set for a Nobel Peace Prize and sod the GCs?

I want a real President

Not yet! Let's wait a bit more to see where he is heading! As things stand now, both of them are in a show game of who will receive the international community's blame for the inevitable failure of the negotiations.

OK thanks Kifeas ... I really want to believe he is the culmination of all the best bits of all previous Presidents, and that he is only just testing the waters, conducting himself accordingly, and finally will not let the GCs (the majority) down in the end!

( .... a bit like me, underestimated, but lots going on under the surface )

The first one that has underestimated you, was your own self, with your numerous near hysterical posts!

[Kifeas]

I wish to hope that all these are part of some strategy which we are not yet aware of but may only suspect, and not the result of incompetence or of any defeatist syndromes. Unfortunately, I have to also include this last one of my fears, judging from the composition of his negotiating team on this issue.

The incompetent fool known as Christofias, or Tractor Jim if you like, doesn’t know the meaning of the word “strategy” so prepare to be disappointed because all he’ll manage is to set new low levels that the RoC is prepared to sink to at Turkey’s amusement and abuse.

I wish to hope that this will not prove to be the case, even though after seeing Toumazos Tsielepis in his negotiating team, my hopes are somewhat lessened!

PS: Don't you think Papadopoulos had made a big mistake to want to run again for the presidency, instead of stepping down in favor of a third candidate, mutually acceptable among all the collision partners including Akel?

[Oracle]

OK! ..... So we have a Lame Duck for a President and we have to rely on the EU to get us out of Turkey's stranglehold ...

Are we to just ignore all the gifts he gives to them now? How retractable will these offerings to the Turks be in future?

Are his sights set for a Nobel Peace Prize and sod the GCs?

I want a real President

Not yet! Let's wait a bit more to see where he is heading! As things stand now, both of them are in a show game of who will receive the international community's blame for the inevitable failure of the negotiations.

OK thanks Kifeas ... I really want to believe he is the culmination of all the best bits of all previous Presidents, and that he is only just testing the waters, conducting himself accordingly, and finally will not let the GCs (the majority) down in the end!

( .... a bit like me, underestimated, but lots going on under the surface )

The first one that has underestimated you, was your own self, with your numerous near hysterical posts!

I know! ... I have underestimated myself

.... be very careful you do not over-estimate yourself Kifeas... that could be disastrous (men never recover!) ......

[Kifeas]

OK! ..... So we have a Lame Duck for a President and we have to rely on the EU to get us out of Turkey's stranglehold ...

Are we to just ignore all the gifts he gives to them now? How retractable will these offerings to the Turks be in future?

Are his sights set for a Nobel Peace Prize and sod the GCs?

I want a real President

Not yet! Let's wait a bit more to see where he is heading! As things stand now, both of them are in a show game of who will receive the international community's blame for the inevitable failure of the negotiations.

OK thanks Kifeas ... I really want to believe he is the culmination of all the best bits of all previous Presidents, and that he is only just testing the waters, conducting himself accordingly, and finally will not let the GCs (the majority) down in the end!

( .... a bit like me, underestimated, but lots going on under the surface )

The first one that has underestimated you, was your own self, with your numerous near hysterical posts!

I know! ... I have underestimated myself

.... be very careful you do not over-estimate yourself Kifeas... that could be disastrous (men never recover!) ......

I have no problem Oracle! I am not the one complaining for being underestimated or anything else!

[Get Real!]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Get Real, if one is to take your above argument literally, then why one highly educated and rich businessman that pays millions of taxes to the state, should only have the same one vote with an unskilled poor worker that may not even qualify for paying taxes? The question is not why to share power, but how to share power!

If this "power sharing" they are demanding was proportional to their numbers then you might as well call it a democracy, thereby eliminating the need for the use of the phrase “power sharing”, but of course we all know that they are referring to a 40 if not 50% of government representation, and seeing that their numbers do not add up one could be forgiven for assuming that they must be a filthy-rich lot who understandably want to use their buying power but alas… they are bankrupt!

Would you go into business with an insolvent partner who demands 50% of control?

[Kifeas]

If these 2 leaders cannot workout a deal we have no hope of a solution. The alternative leaders are hardliners and would rather continue with the current status quo. If the GCs have an ounce of sense they would seize the opportunity.

If you had a GRAM of sense you would’ve never suggested to the overwhelming majority that makes 25 billion p/a, that they should “share power” with a bankrupt minority of no-hoper Turkophiles like yourself, that you obviously and conveniently call a “solution”, and tout it to GCs as “seizing an opportunity”!

How daft can you possibly get or perhaps you overestimate your intelligence...

Get Real, if one is to take your above argument literally, then why one highly educated and rich businessman that pays millions of taxes to the state, should only have the same one vote with an unskilled poor worker that may not even qualify for paying taxes? The question is not why to share power, but how to share power!

If this "power sharing" they are demanding was proportional to their numbers then you might as well call it a democracy, thereby eliminating the need for the use of the phrase “power sharing”, but of course we all know that they are referring to a 40 if not 50% of government representation, and seeing that their numbers do not add up one could be forgiven for assuming that they must be a filthy-rich lot who understandably want to use their buying power but alas… they are bankrupt!

Would you go into business with an insolvent partner who demands 50% of control?

I would, if for some reason I knew that my partnership in the long run would multiply my wealth, regardless of the fact that this will also equally multiply this insolvent partner's wealth.

The Cyprus problem is not an issue that can be view from a purely business related perspective!