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Hypothetical scenario about ECHR

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

If ECHR accepts property commision what would GCs do?

Accept the decision as legal and go and apply to property commission.
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33%
Cry foul and complain that the same court that has delivered justice to them in the past is not legal anymore.
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67%
 
Total votes : 6

Postby Kifeas » Sun May 15, 2005 10:07 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:
Metecyp wrote: Since you're so honest about your community, maybe you can tell us how TCs are referred...


I answered you in detail in another thread, not more than 10 days ago.
Can you explain me why the TCs call the GCs Rumlar though?
Rum=Greek
Rumalr=Greeks


Mike,
You know turkish but you do not know what Rumlar means and where it comes from?
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Postby garbitsch » Sun May 15, 2005 10:08 pm

In Turkish, the Greeks living in Turkey and in Cyprus are called "Rum". This has nothing to do with "insulting". Just click "Turkish" in AKEL's official website. You will see they refer Greek Cypriots as "Kibrisli Rumlar". The word Rum comes from Romoi which was used by the BYZANTINES. They never called themselves "Greeks" but "Romans". The West called you "Byzantines". The Ottomans never called themselves "Turks" but the West did. Go and find something different....

Mic, you cannot know T.Cs than Turkish Cypriots themselves. OK?
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Postby metecyp » Sun May 15, 2005 10:43 pm

Kifeas wrote:Can you make a prediction, metecyp?

Why bother with predicting when we have so honest forum members like MicAtCyp? :-)
MicAtCyp wrote:I answered you in detail in another thread, not more than 10 days ago.
Can you explain me why the TCs call the GCs Rumlar though?
Rum=Greek
Rumalr=Greeks

I don't remember your answer, I've been busy and I couldn't follow the forum as much, maybe you can remind me again? Also, I don't know where you're trying to get at here. Is there anything wrong with the word "Rum"?
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 16, 2005 6:04 am

turkcyp wrote: Rum: Actually means “Greeks who reside in Muslim majority countries”
A true translation of Greek to Turkish is “Yunan” not “Rum”

Hence in Turkish Greece is “Yunanistan”
But TCs got used to calling GC in Cyprus as “Rum” since Ottoman times, because back then they were living under Ottoman times. The same is true for example Greeks living in Istanbul. They are never called Yunan but rather called Rum. “Fener Rum Patrikhanesi” for example. Again the reason being they are living in country majority dominated by Turks.
So Rum does not actually reqally equate to Greek. Every Rum is Greek but not every Greek is Rum. Rum is like subset of Greek, who reside in majority Muslim countires”


For more accurate information on the above terms please read

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21824#21824
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 16, 2005 6:27 am

turkcyp wrote:
TC have been called in the past as with nice words like “Dogs” “bastards” etc. etc. I do not know what they call TCs right now. May be they have improved their vocabulary.


TCs were indeed called "dogs" by many GCs but I do not think they were ever called "bastards." This is not one of the typical adjectives used. The name "dog" was used in order to illustrate their passion and fanatic obsession towards their perceived (by GCs) partition cause. Also to illustrate the degree of TCs hate feelings towards the GCs. Similar to a dog which when has gotten rabies, becomes a particularly vicious and dangerous animal, so did they (TCs) have gotten fanatical against GCs.

Now that you know what and why TCs were called what they were called, tell us what names the TCs use for GCs and why. What does the word "giaour" means?
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 16, 2005 6:33 am

turkcyp wrote:
Kifeas wrote:[
For more accurate information on the above terms please read

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21824#21824


Preety much what I have said.

I was not talking about the origin of the words in fact I did not know the originof the words till your link. I was talking about what "Rum" measn in everyday Turkish and what "Yunan" means in eveyday Turkish.


Greeks of mainland Greece were also called Rums during the Ottoman times. Greeks in general are offten self-identified even in modern (last one century) Greek literature as "Romie." The term "Romios" or "Rum" in Turkish, is not restricted only to Greeks living in Turkey or Cyprus.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon May 16, 2005 6:48 am

Turkcyp,
Are you in Cyprus now or in the U.S.?
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