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Kifeas

If not, the s__t the f__k up and let the people seek their legitimate property rights.

Thank you for your civil response, this comment is a true reflection on yourself, Im sure you feel proud obviously you are that sort of person.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas

If not, the s__t the f__k up and let the people seek their legitimate property rights.

Thank you for your civil response, this comment is a true reflection on yourself, Im sure you feel proud obviously you are that sort of person.

I said it to you and I do not regret it, because you make me sick reading your hypocritical rantings all the time. Especially now with these arrest warrants against all the crooks and thieves that you father Denktah has gathered in the north. You all of suddenly started pouring tones of crocodile tears for the good climate between the two communities which will be spoiled, etc, etc, whereas in reallity, you do not give a damn shit about a solution because your only concern is partition and nothing else. If you really cared about a solution and reunification, you should have been by now outside you presidents office, demonstrating against this unethical looting of your GC "compatriots" properties. In reallity however, you do not give a damn shit about their feelings and rights. You care more about the foreigners who come and buy for peanuts the GC proprties because this you think and wish will keep the north clean from a future GC present.
Enough hypocricy viewpoint. You are simply looking for cheap excuses to load the blame on GCs without loking at the real guilty people who are no other than your trnc leadership. If they really cared about a solution, then they should have done something about this immorality of which you became one of the best advocates.

You only want a solution that wilk keep yours as yours and all of ours, yours again.
Enough Viewpoint...enough!

[MicAtCyp]

I do not know who voted "Yes" among GCs. At least it makes me happy to see that at least some of GCs will obey to the court decisions

And who told you it is GCs who voted????? All I see in this thread is 2 GCs disagreeing and at the same time 2 votes saying yes!!!! Isn’t that strange?

By the way I am not going to answer your hypothetical question because I don't know under what hypothetical conditions your hypothesis would be true. Unless you set those conditions and present options relative to those conditions your hypothesis is meaningless and any answer to it is even more meaningless.

In a nutshell what is this rulling all about? What is the point you want to make?

There is no point. It is just a measurement of how would we react under faulty hypothetical conditions that in extend hey.... they point to the not so hypothetical but very real conditions!

what do you think these arrests will achieve???stop European purchasers?? scare the foreigners already resident in the TRNC

One thing is for sure.When the time comes no-one of those will be able to claim that they had no idea about what they were doing.....And another thing is also certain. Your "sale" prices for selling out our properties will fall down to peanuts. And you personally who is living from this bussiness will go bankrupt.

[uzan]

Kifeas

If not, the s__t the f__k up and let the people seek their legitimate property rights.

sort of person.Thank you for your civil response, this comment is a true reflection on yourself, Im sure you feel proud obviously you are that

Viewpoint, you are learning everyday about gc.Do you realize now gc dont and wont change.They dont wont us only they wont propertys and goverment.



Kifeas,you should thank TURKEY for saving your life from EOKA, not ungreatfull shame on you.

[magikthrill]

Kifeas,you should thank TURKEY for saving your life from EOKA, not ungreatfull shame on you.

[Anglo]

KIFEAS: As for the British high court turning down Orams case execution. Impossible too. They may delay it but they will never turn it down.

This judgement is asking a UK court to go against stated EU/UK public policy - namely that the property issue must be solved within the framework of a comprehensive negotiated settlement.

The above statement of yours shows how little you understand about the functioning of laws in member states and in the E.U. When there are laws regulating issues, the politics (public policy as you say) come second. This is a very basic principle for any democratic state, any E.U. member and the E.U. it self. The public policy of the U.K. is a political desire. Nothing else. The law of the U.K. and the E.U. is a law. And laws are made in order to be observed. In the absence of a solution to the Cyprus problem which will regulate things differently, then what remains and what prevails is the existing legal framework.

Please see Article 22 and in particular Article 34
http://www.eupro.co.uk/docs%20pdf/EU%20 ... cement.pdf

[Piratis]

The short answer: impossible.

The "there is nothing impossible answer":
If ECHR made such decision then the ECHR would cease to exist and would be replaced by ECHR2 that would take correct decisions.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas,you should thank TURKEY for saving your life from EOKA, not ungreatfull shame on you.

Mulla Uzan, FCUK O_F and do not address me again in your postings. Just pray the God you do not come accross me one day.

[RAFAELLA]

Kifeas

If not, the s__t the f__k up and let the people seek their legitimate property rights.

Thank you for your civil response, this comment is a true reflection on yourself, Im sure you feel proud obviously you are that sort of person.

I said it to you and I do not regret it, because you make me sick reading your hypocritical rantings all the time. Especially now with these arrest warrants against all the crooks and thieves that you father Denktah has gathered in the north. You all of suddenly started pouring tones of crocodile tears for the good climate between the two communities which will be spoiled, etc, etc, whereas in reallity, you do not give a damn shit about a solution because your only concern is partition and nothing else. If you really cared about a solution and reunification, you should have been by now outside you presidents office, demonstrating against this unethical looting of your GC "compatriots" properties. In reallity however, you do not give a damn shit about their feelings and rights. You care more about the foreigners who come and buy for peanuts the GC proprties because this you think and wish will keep the north clean from a future GC present.
Enough hypocricy viewpoint. You are simply looking for cheap excuses to load the blame on GCs without loking at the real guilty people who are no other than your trnc leadership. If they really cared about a solution, then they should have done something about this immorality of which you became one of the best advocates.

You only want a solution that wilk keep yours as yours and all of ours, yours again.
Enough Viewpoint...enough!

BRAVO KIFEAS:D

[Kifeas]

KIFEAS: As for the British high court turning down Orams case execution. Impossible too. They may delay it but they will never turn it down.

This judgement is asking a UK court to go against stated EU/UK public policy - namely that the property issue must be solved within the framework of a comprehensive negotiated settlement.

The above statement of yours shows how little you understand about the functioning of laws in member states and in the E.U. When there are laws regulating issues, the politics (public policy as you say) come second. This is a very basic principle for any democratic state, any E.U. member and the E.U. it self. The public policy of the U.K. is a political desire. Nothing else. The law of the U.K. and the E.U. is a law. And laws are made in order to be observed. In the absence of a solution to the Cyprus problem which will regulate things differently, then what remains and what prevails is the existing legal framework.

Please see Article 22 and in particular Article 34
http://www.eupro.co.uk/docs%20pdf/EU%20 ... cement.pdf

This is article 34

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Article 34
A judgment shall not be recognised:
1. if such recognition is manifestly contrary to public policy
in the Member State in which recognition is sought;

If a judgment is against public policy in the member state in which recognition is sought, it shall not be recognized.
The Support of the U.K. towards a solution on the basis of A-plan is not public policy; it is foreign (state) policy. Public policy is the policy relating to internal affairs of a country.


As for article 22, I see nothing in there that may create a problem. If you see, then bring it up.