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[Kifeas]

Turkcyp,
Are you in Cyprus now or in the U.S.?

U.S.

I thought so. Isn't it very late there for you? I believe you probably need to go and take a rest. I sense from your last reply that you must be very tired and thus irritated.

[garbitsch]

My dad was once called "Shillo Tourko" in Limasol!!!

[MicAtCyp]

Mic, you cannot know T.Cs than Turkish Cypriots themselves. OK?

I asked a question.And you gave me the answer I already knew!!! Thank you VERY much!

My question was not whether Akel calls the GCs Kibrisli Rumlar but why the TCs call us simply Rumlar? Your answer just verified my point. Now go explain that to Metecyp, who wrongly beleives that we call you Turks, whereas the truth is we call you TCs.

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Metecyp,

You can find my reply in the thread titled "Differences of mainland turks and us" thread.I am not sure of the exact thread title ....

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Kifeas,

My question had 2 points:First that they call us Rum-lar (the word used for describing the Greeks living under the authority of the Turkish State) whereas they use the word Yunan for the rest of the Greeks. Second that they omit the word Kibrisli(=kypraios)

[Kifeas]

Bastard did exist as a derogatory term used against TCs. And please do not explain and try to justify why we have been called “dogs”, please spare me for that. Tell that to my mom, who recalls an experience in her life where she was going to high school in the bus mixed with other students and how all the GC students at once threatened to leave the bus if the “Dirty Dog (mom) does not leave the bus, immediately”. So mom had to leave the bus. (I am not saying these things still exist but back then it did exist.)

I just tried to give the etymology of the particular name-calling. Like you did yourself with the word "Gavour." I would have never justified such a behavior. If you had known me better and on a more personal level, you would have never thought or said such a thing about me. If it were my intention to justify it, I could as well have refused to admit that it had ever been said by any GC, as a way of cursing towards a TC. Can you honestly say that a similar name calling practice did not exist among some TCs when referring to GCs?

TCs however got used to calling GCs Rum since back from Ottoman times. What would you rather have us call you, Kibrisli Yunan (direct translation of GC)? (if you want I can call you Cypriot only as you are so fond of one Cypriotness, as I have said many times label does not mean anything. It is the substance that matters.)(the origins of the words as I have said I do not know, and I take your word for it as their origin.)

I do not think there is anything wrong with the name "Rum" ("Romios") when describing any Greek origin person in general, since it is also use by Greeks themselves sometimes, even up to this date. The word "Yunan" that is used by Turks when referring to mainland Greeks, etymologically is probably a more arbitrary term, than the term "Rum."

[garbitsch]

WE don't use Kibrisli because when we say "Rum" we know that we mean Greek Cypriots. Rum does not mean Greeks living under Turkish rule, don't have such fantasies!!!

[Kifeas]

Kifeas,

My question had 2 points:First that they call us Rum-lar (the word used for describing the Greeks living under the authority of the Turkish State) whereas they use the word Yunan for the rest of the Greeks. Second that they omit the word Kibrisli(=kypraios)

I believe the best solution is from now on for us to call the TCs "Kibrisli" in Greek and for the TCs to call the GCs "Kypraios" (singular) or "Kypraioi" (plural.) In English we can use the Terms "Kibrisli Cypriots" for TCs and "Kypraioi Cypriots" for the GCs. The two constituent states in A-plan should be renamed as "Kypriaki Constituent state" (KYPCS) and "Kibrisli Constituent state" (KIBCS)

[brother]

I believe the best solution is from now on for us to call the TCs "Kibrisli" in Greek and for the TCs to call the GCs "Kypraios" (singular) or "Kypraioi" (plural.) In English we can use the Terms "Kibrisli Cypriots" for TCs and "Kypraioi Cypriots" for the GCs. The two constituent states in A-plan should be renamed as "Kypriaki Constituent state" (KYPCS) and "Kibrisli Constituent state" (KIBCS)

You say this with a smile on your face but this would actually be a step in the right direction, and i for one would rather be called cypriot or kibrisli etc. than have turkish attached to it in the begining as i define that as just another language i can speak but not true of my ethinticity.

[Kifeas]

I believe the best solution is from now on for us to call the TCs "Kibrisli" in Greek and for the TCs to call the GCs "Kypraios" (singular) or "Kypraioi" (plural.) In English we can use the Terms "Kibrisli Cypriots" for TCs and "Kypraioi Cypriots" for the GCs. The two constituent states in A-plan should be renamed as "Kypriaki Constituent state" (KYPCS) and "Kibrisli Constituent state" (KIBCS)

You say this with a smile on your face but this would actually be a step in the right direction, and i for one would rather be called cypriot or kibrisli etc. than have turkish attached to it in the begining as i define that as just another language i can speak but not true of my ethinticity.

Brother,
I always smile when I make an important invention.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

[brother]

Kifeas,

you welcome kardesim, this is the sort of things we should aspire to and make our homeland the beautiful and safe haven it deserves to be.