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196 ΑΘΑΝΑΣΗ ΠΕΤΡΟΣ 29.11.58 Πυροβολήθηκε από μασκοφόρους στη Χάρτζια
197 ΚΑΣΙΕΡΗΣ ΚΩΣΤΑΣ 5.12.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Γεράσα
198 ΠΡΟΚΟΠΙΟΥ ΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΣ 12.12.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στο γραφείο του στην Κυθρέα







Οι Ελληνοκύπριοι αστυνομικοί που σκοτώθηκαν από την ΕΟΚΑ την περίοδο 1955-59 είναι οι ακόλουθοι:



Α/Α ΟΝΟΜΑΤΕΠΩΝΥΜΟ ΗΜΕΡ. ΘΑΝΑΤΟΥ ΠΑΡΑΤΗΡΗΣΕΙΣ
1 ΔΗΜΟΣΘΕΝΟΥΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ 22.6.1955 Σκοτώθηκε στην επίθεση κατά του αστυνομικού σταθμού Αμιάντου
2 ΚΩΣΤΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ ΚΩΣΤΑΣ 11.8.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε έξω από νυκτερινό κέντρο στην Αμμόχωστο
3 ΠΟΥΛΛΗΣ ΗΡΟΔΟΤΟΣ 28.8.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Λευκωσία
4 ΠΑΝΑΓΗ ΝΙΚΟΛΑΣ 5.10.1955 Τραυματίστηκε σε ανταλλαγή πυροβολισμών στις 4.10.1955 και απεβίωσε στις 5.10.1955 στην Αμμόχωστο
5 ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥ ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣ 5.12.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε σε ενέδρα στο Τρόοδος
6 ΜΟΡΦΙΤΗΣ ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣ 8.3.1956 Σκοτώθηκε μετά από έκρηξη χειροβομβίδας στη Πάφο
7 ΣΤΑΥΡΟΥ ΑΘΑΝΑΣΗΣ 7.4.1956 Τραυματίστηκε στις 30.3.1956 στη Λευκωσία και απεβίωσε στις 7.4.1956
8 ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΟΥΣ ΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΣ 15.4.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε στην κλινική Παρασκευαΐδη στη Λευκωσία
9 ΖΑΝΕΤΤΟΣ ΑΝΔΡΕΑΣ 15.4.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε και απεβίωσε αργότερα στο νοσοκομείο Λάρνακας
10 ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΟΥ ΤΑΣΟΣ 5.11.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε σε καφενείο στην Αμμόχωστο
11 ΗΑΤΖΗΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ JACK 21.12.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε στην οδό Λήδρας στη Λευκωσία
12 ΚΑΖΑΝΑΣ ΣΤΕΛΙΟΣ 6.8.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Μύρτου
13 ΜΙΧΑΗΛ ΙΑΚΩΒΟΣ 29.10.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στην Αργάκα
14 ΜΙΧΑΗΛΕΡΟΣ ΘΕΟΔΟΣΗΣ 9.11.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε σε εστιατόριο στην Αμμόχωστο


Μακάριος Δρουσιώτης

Πολίτης

10/04/2005





Sorry , the list is in Greek.

How can a liberation struggle like the eoka people claim, killed more of their own people ( both GC and TC) rather than english soldiers.
An organisation of 20 000 fighters killed almost 60 english soldiers.
Thats about 0.003 english soldier per fighter


Also those who fought , later on became ministers, and got key positions in the goverment for their so called efforts ( more like a position fight rather than a liberal fight).
Also many of the members of eoka a, created eoka b, which we all know their actions.

I will make a comment about one of these civilians. ΜΟΡΦΙΤΗΣ ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣ was known to my family. In fact he lived in the same street as my family, just 2 or 3 doors down. My mother (she was a child) told me that everyone in the street did not even want to be seen talking to him because there were numerous rumours about his collaboration with the British. It was said that he played a role in the capture of EOKA members.

The EOKA campaign was a war against the British for self determination. Anyone who was seen as collaborating with the British were regarded as treasonous to the cause. EOKA acted accordingly and treated individuals accused of "High Treason" as it saw fit under the circumstances.

I can not comment about anyone else as I do not know as to the reasons why they were killed. I presume it would be because they too were seen to betray the EOKA movement by collaborating with the enemy.

That is proof that E.O.K.A. were scumbags like Sinn Fein/I.R.A..Those Cypriots who collaborated with the British or refused to collaborate with E.O.K.A. did the right thing,as they weren't interested in fighting.

Aidan.

[zan]

I've been travelling tonight, I'm too tired and I'm too pissed off with the taxi cab that brought me to my hotel and I don't have the energy to argue right now but I've read too much on this thread.

I've read about the 20,000 strong eoka force!!!! which numbered 300 trusted fighters of this closed loyal group
I've read about hindsight and how these kids did more harm to their country than good, when they died singing about Cyprus
I've also been wondering today the differences between the American revolution and the EOKA struggle and someone finally posted this (nikitas i think) and surprise surprise received an answer from a tc saying that you can't compare eoka to the Americans who were trying to make their country great??? WHO wanted to make their country great? Here was an island with 80% Greeks who wanted freedom form the colonial oppressor like every other colony in the world wanted at the time and union with the mother country.

As i said, I'm too tired and too pissed off but if you think these idealist boys who died for their country were anything but heroes for their people then you simply are out of touch with 80% of this island....and that's a lot of people to be out of touch with in the place that you've chosen to live.

As I have said....Nazis were in the majority as well. Seems like anything goes in your mind

[Paphitis]

Are there no comments ref the list of civilians killed by EOKA as provided / claimed by Alekcen..?

Now that I have commented, perhaps you can answer this question.

Do you look up to Evagoras Pallikaridis? Do you find him inspirational?

Or do you loath him as a "terrorist"?

Do you think that you as an individual is fit enough to pass judgement on others who had the conviction to fight for your freedom and make the ultimate sacrifice to their nation with their heads held up high?

[BC Numismatics]

Paphitis,
Ian Paisley is more of an inspiration than Evagoras Pallikaridis,as Ian Paisley was fighting for freedom with words,whereas,Pallakaridis must have been killing people.If so,then Pallakaridis deserved to have been strung up.

Aidan.

[Paphitis]

i need to correct something about the number of british soldiers killed.
The number is 104, which for 20 000 fighters, we have 0.0052 per fighter.

About david carter thats not so trust worthy source, taking into account that he lives in the north . Also remarkable is the fact that the eoka fighters association nowadays, instead of giving evidence or deny the accusations about the murders committed by them against GC ( 204) they just refereed to david carters report that claims 369 British soldiers were killed. Ironic isnt it, the eoka association uses as evidence one reported that lives in the north and his whole report about the 369 soldiers lacks of proofs.



The actual number of dead english soldiers is 104.
GreekCypriots murdered most of them without reason ( except being left wing, or supporting something different) is 204.

Any links as to your claim that the EOKA fighters numbered 20,000?

More accurate figures are that they numbered around 300.

[Paphitis]

I've been travelling tonight, I'm too tired and I'm too pissed off with the taxi cab that brought me to my hotel and I don't have the energy to argue right now but I've read too much on this thread.

I've read about the 20,000 strong eoka force!!!! which numbered 300 trusted fighters of this closed loyal group
I've read about hindsight and how these kids did more harm to their country than good, when they died singing about Cyprus
I've also been wondering today the differences between the American revolution and the EOKA struggle and someone finally posted this (nikitas i think) and surprise surprise received an answer from a tc saying that you can't compare eoka to the Americans who were trying to make their country great??? WHO wanted to make their country great? Here was an island with 80% Greeks who wanted freedom form the colonial oppressor like every other colony in the world wanted at the time and union with the mother country.

As i said, I'm too tired and too pissed off but if you think these idealist boys who died for their country were anything but heroes for their people then you simply are out of touch with 80% of this island....and that's a lot of people to be out of touch with in the place that you've chosen to live.

[Paphitis]

196 ΑΘΑΝΑΣΗ ΠΕΤΡΟΣ 29.11.58 Πυροβολήθηκε από μασκοφόρους στη Χάρτζια
197 ΚΑΣΙΕΡΗΣ ΚΩΣΤΑΣ 5.12.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Γεράσα
198 ΠΡΟΚΟΠΙΟΥ ΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΣ 12.12.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στο γραφείο του στην Κυθρέα







Οι Ελληνοκύπριοι αστυνομικοί που σκοτώθηκαν από την ΕΟΚΑ την περίοδο 1955-59 είναι οι ακόλουθοι:



Α/Α ΟΝΟΜΑΤΕΠΩΝΥΜΟ ΗΜΕΡ. ΘΑΝΑΤΟΥ ΠΑΡΑΤΗΡΗΣΕΙΣ
1 ΔΗΜΟΣΘΕΝΟΥΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ 22.6.1955 Σκοτώθηκε στην επίθεση κατά του αστυνομικού σταθμού Αμιάντου
2 ΚΩΣΤΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ ΚΩΣΤΑΣ 11.8.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε έξω από νυκτερινό κέντρο στην Αμμόχωστο
3 ΠΟΥΛΛΗΣ ΗΡΟΔΟΤΟΣ 28.8.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Λευκωσία
4 ΠΑΝΑΓΗ ΝΙΚΟΛΑΣ 5.10.1955 Τραυματίστηκε σε ανταλλαγή πυροβολισμών στις 4.10.1955 και απεβίωσε στις 5.10.1955 στην Αμμόχωστο
5 ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥ ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣ 5.12.1955 Πυροβολήθηκε σε ενέδρα στο Τρόοδος
6 ΜΟΡΦΙΤΗΣ ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣ 8.3.1956 Σκοτώθηκε μετά από έκρηξη χειροβομβίδας στη Πάφο
7 ΣΤΑΥΡΟΥ ΑΘΑΝΑΣΗΣ 7.4.1956 Τραυματίστηκε στις 30.3.1956 στη Λευκωσία και απεβίωσε στις 7.4.1956
8 ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΟΥΣ ΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΣ 15.4.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε στην κλινική Παρασκευαΐδη στη Λευκωσία
9 ΖΑΝΕΤΤΟΣ ΑΝΔΡΕΑΣ 15.4.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε και απεβίωσε αργότερα στο νοσοκομείο Λάρνακας
10 ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΟΥ ΤΑΣΟΣ 5.11.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε σε καφενείο στην Αμμόχωστο
11 ΗΑΤΖΗΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ JACK 21.12.1956 Πυροβολήθηκε στην οδό Λήδρας στη Λευκωσία
12 ΚΑΖΑΝΑΣ ΣΤΕΛΙΟΣ 6.8.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στη Μύρτου
13 ΜΙΧΑΗΛ ΙΑΚΩΒΟΣ 29.10.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε στην Αργάκα
14 ΜΙΧΑΗΛΕΡΟΣ ΘΕΟΔΟΣΗΣ 9.11.1958 Πυροβολήθηκε σε εστιατόριο στην Αμμόχωστο


Μακάριος Δρουσιώτης

Πολίτης

10/04/2005





Sorry , the list is in Greek.

How can a liberation struggle like the eoka people claim, killed more of their own people ( both GC and TC) rather than english soldiers.
An organisation of 20 000 fighters killed almost 60 english soldiers.
Thats about 0.003 english soldier per fighter


Also those who fought , later on became ministers, and got key positions in the goverment for their so called efforts ( more like a position fight rather than a liberal fight).
Also many of the members of eoka a, created eoka b, which we all know their actions.

I will make a comment about one of these civilians. ΜΟΡΦΙΤΗΣ ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣ was known to my family. In fact he lived in the same street as my family, just 2 or 3 doors down. My mother (she was a child) told me that everyone in the street did not even want to be seen talking to him because there were numerous rumours about his collaboration with the British. It was said that he played a role in the capture of EOKA members.

The EOKA campaign was a war against the British for self determination. Anyone who was seen as collaborating with the British were regarded as treasonous to the cause. EOKA acted accordingly and treated individuals accused of "High Treason" as it saw fit under the circumstances.

I can not comment about anyone else as I do not know as to the reasons why they were killed. I presume it would be because they too were seen to betray the EOKA movement by collaborating with the enemy.

That is proof that E.O.K.A. were scumbags like Sinn Fein/I.R.A..Those Cypriots who collaborated with the British or refused to collaborate with E.O.K.A. did the right thing,as they weren't interested in fighting.

Aidan.

The ones that were interested in fighting were the British for not granting self determination to the Cypriot people.

Aidan, I feel that the majority on this forum have had enough of your stupid comments. The fact that you call people "faggots", "wankers", "scummy turks" etc etc speaks volumes of the kind of individual you are. I suggest you take a hike fella!

[BC Numismatics]

Paphitis,
The one who is being ridiculous on this forum is YOU! It is YOU who needs to get lost!

Aidan.

[connor]

( Paphitis wrote...EOKA acted accordingly and treated individuals accused of "High Treason" as it saw fit under the circumstances. )

So was it ok for EOKA to act as judge/jury and executioner and snuff out the lives of any GC who disagreed with their methods or who refused to fight for EOKA's cause...? It would seem to me that there is some truth to the opinions I have heard that many GC's were in fact living in fear of EOKA and afraid to speak out against them.

Were EOKA qualified to act as judge and jury on the matter..? I gather from what I have read here that there were approx 300 men who formed the basic EOKA movement....was there an experienced judge among them..?

Paphitis you persist in asking my opinion of these men. I can see why self rule and independance from the UK was wanted by some Cypriots, however, from what I have read so far, I don't think I can agree that an armed uprising against the British was the best option to pursue...especially in view of the fact that so many civilians were put to death by EOKA.

As I understand it Cyprus was going to get its independance from the UK anyway like so many other countries did. So if that was the the case then what did EOKA actually achieve..? Did they bring independance forward a little..? If so were the lives lost worth it..?

My conclusion, so far, am still learning you understand, is that....Yes I admire EOKA's aspirations for independance but I do not, based on what I have read here and what I have been told by GC friends, admire their methods.

[RAFAELLA]

You Cypriots should be grateful for the existence of the Sovereign Base Areas,as they are providing employment (as well as British-Cypriot dual citizenship),& contributing to the economy of the Republic of Cyprus itself.

If there were no S.B.A.s,then Cyprus' economy would have been in the pan years ago!

Aidan.

So you claim that if SBA didn't exist in CY we would starve to death?
Ridiculous!
As for the citizenship, is that a privilege? and if it is, it's not a "privilege" given to Cypriots only.

Blaming the British for your country's problems is a bit rich!

Aidan.

Brits have a lot to answer for regarding the fate of Cyprus.

Rafaella,
That goes to prove that E.O.K.A. were promoting & fighting for the braindead idea that is Enosis.

The chance of Enosis happening today is as much chance as the Lake of Fire in Hell freezing over,or a Protestant becoming Pope of Rome - NO CHANCE!

Aidan.

Once again you confirm that you have no idea of what you are talking about.

At that time the idea of Enosis was possible through EOKA struggle and through the will of Cypriots who sign for Enosis.
...and when you fight for a cause you promote that cause as at that time Enosis was not a braindead idea.

...and who spoke about Enosis today re clown? See what I was telling you? from your sayings you confirm that you have no idea of what you are talking about!

That is proof that E.O.K.A. were scumbags like Sinn Fein/I.R.A..Those Cypriots who collaborated with the British or refused to collaborate with E.O.K.A. did the right thing,as they weren't interested in fighting.

Aidan.

In times of war what is the fate of traitors?

Those who collaborated with the enemy, the Brits, against their nation, country and against their compatriots, they had the fate they deserved with our blessings.
There were people that were not collaborating with EOKA but that doesn't mean they didn't support its cause.
The 12 year olds, the 15 year olds who were demostrating in the streets etc, were collaborating with EOKA? They were supporting its cause.

...and what are you trying to proove with all these s*** you are writing.
You cannot teach us OUR history my friend, you cannot!