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Postby hasanaggi » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:56 am

no .............he was just sleeping in his bed, with my grandmother.....................would you like the further details?
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Postby hasanaggi » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:59 am

Betonlar? Only Hatice and Riza are alive.

hey Riza rings a bell...............................not too many Rizas about. Ill ask...................how old Riza?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:00 am

hasanaggi wrote:no .............he was just sleeping in his bed, with my grandmother.....................would you like the further details?

That's strange... they're always sleeping quietly in their beds when TCs get killed yet the world is on fire outside, so much so that the UN mobilized as Greece & Turkey were on the brink of war!

Didn’t you ask your family WHY Grivas came out to Kophinou or don’t you think it’s important?
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Postby Sotos » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:01 am

hasanaggi wrote:Im not making sense? ……just how much of an ignorant biggot are you?……………you call tcs fighting against union with Greece, with their lives traitors Cypriot Traitors, and im not making sense……………………..how about you make sense of that first before accusing others of not making sense.

Listen any gc’s wishing to become Greek citizens were also free to leave MY COUNTRY and go to Greece. Now does that make sense or would you like some kind of picture? ………………………By the way just how many more double standards do you have?


Tell me FOREIGNER, when you invaded us in 1571 did you get permission to come to MY COUNTRY? Who the hell do you think you are to tell us what we can do with OUR COUNTRY? We have been GREEKS since the time you were still living in caves somewhere in Mongolia. And now because you invaded us and you brought a small minority of Turks here you think you can tell us what to do with our island? :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:05 am

Hasanaggi, did your family ever tell you about this?

“Turkish Cypriot fighters moved forward at nearby Ayios Theodhoros, where they also manhandled senior UNFICYP officers. There was severe friction between UNFICYP and Turkish Cypriot fighters in Kophinou, and the situation also deteriorated in the Paphos and Lefka districts.”

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1

…or do you think it’s not important?
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Postby hasanaggi » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:27 am

That's strange... they're always sleeping quietly in their beds when TCs get killed yet the world is on fire outside, so much so that the UN mobilized as Greece & Turkey were on the brink of war!

Didn’t you ask your family WHY Grivas came out to Kophinou or don’t you think it’s important?


Ok so you do want the further details.......................

He heard the rumble of your armoured vehicles and gun fire. he got out of bed. to take a look, he saw greek national guard approaching. As they kicked in the door, he hid behind it.Grivas's National guard then riddled the place with bullets and threw a grenade into the bed killing my grandmother instantly. My grandfather's leg was blown off, he died a short time after.

Sotos WHO AM I? ................................... i am a cypriot as designated by the signature of Makarios. I and my family should have been afforded the protection of Makarios.....instead we got Grivas's bullets. It is as much my country as anyone else's and anyone who wishes to live anywhere else can leave NOW. i AM A CYPRIOT ..WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:33 am

hasanaggi wrote:He heard the rumble of your armoured vehicles and gun fire. he got out of bed. to take a look, he saw greek national guard approaching. As they kicked in the door, he hid behind it.Grivas's National guard then riddled the place with bullets and threw a grenade into the bed killing my grandmother instantly. My grandfather's leg was blown off, he died a short time after.

I don't believe the story you were told because I can cross-reference with the UN’s version of the events and verify much of this…

Against this background, a second major clash occurred in Cyprus on 15 November 1967. The Turkish Cypriot village of Kophinou is situated in the Larnaca area and sits on the junction where the road from Larnaca joins the road from Limassol. If cut, road communications would be disrupted and freedom of movement would be denied between the South-west and the remainder of the island. The appointment of a new Turkish officer in January 1967 to head the Turkish Cypriot paramilitaries heightened tension in the area. Known by his nom de guerre, Mehmet, a campaign of stopping traffic, altering road signs and a generally belligerent attitude aimed quite often at the local UN contingent was adopted by his paramilitaries. It was calculated to annoy, intimidate, and precipitate all but the Turkish Cypriots.

Turkish paramilitaries occupied positions on the high ground above Ayios Theodoros, the neighbouring village to Kophinou. By the Summer of 1967, the Greeks of Ayios Theodoros began to experience difficulties getting to their part of the village which could only be reached by travelling through the occupied Turkish sector. Whilst this was going on, the Greek Cypriot police decided to suspend their patrols in order to avoid any increase in tension. In September, Mehmet assaulted a UN major and was relieved of his command. The police then sought to resume their patrols, but were prevented from doing so by the Turkish paramilitaries. The tension imported by Mehmet, however, did not leave with him.

There followed two months of protracted negotiations in an attempt to restart the patrols which had taken place since the early 1960s and had only temporarily been stopped. UNFICYP agreed on the resumption of the patrols, and by mid October the UN Secretary General himself was becoming impatient at Turkish prevarication, which was clearly emanating from the Turkish leadership, and complained bitterly at Turkish Cypriot behaviour. The possibility of another no go area was unacceptable to the Cypriot Government, especially in view of the strategic significance of the junction of the Larnaca-Limassol road.

On 27 October 1967, the UN Secretary General was therefore driven to make a personal appeal to the Turkish Government, asking them to co-operate with the UN authorities in Cyprus in order to restore freedom of movement in the Kophinou area. However, his pleas were met with an obstinateness and stubbornness that has characterised Turkey’s involvement in Cyprus ever since. There followed more prevarication and on 13 November 1967 the UN met with the Cyprus government, followed on 14 November by two police patrols moving through the area. They completed their patrol unhindered. The following day, however, another police patrol following the same route was shot at by Turkish-Cypriot nationalists.

The National Guard, by this time joined by Grivas, retaliated, as the Turks knew they would, and the result was a battle which went on through the night. On 16 March, inevitably, the National Guard and the police were withdrawn. However, by then the death toll amounted to 22 Turkish casualties and one Greek. This event was isolated and did not escalate into island wide violence, as had been the case in 1963/64. This episode has since been described by Turkish propagandists as a "genocide" committed against the Turkish Cypriots. The sad reality is that it had been deliberately instigated by Turkey, who was by now playing with the lives of the Turkish Cypriots. The Turkish response was immediate and pre-meditated. Turkish war planes made sorties over Greek Thrace and troops were concentrated on the Greco-Turkish border. Yet again, the threat of war and a danger to the cohesion of NATO’s southern flank emerged.


http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism3.htm

The U.S. Library of Congress pretty much repeats some of these events...

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/14.htm
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Postby Sotos » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:38 am

I am about 10 times more Cypriot than you are. Cyprus is a Greek island since the time you Turks were still living in caves in Mongolia. Just because you invaded us and you brought your Turkish settlers here and you created some small Turkish minority you think you can tell us what to do with our island? You attacked us because you didn't accept what the native Cypriots wanted. You wanted to tell us what to do with our island as if it was still the Ottoman era that you killed Cypriots whenever you wanted. You thought we would not fight back?
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Postby hasanaggi » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:48 am

there is no such thing as ten times.................................you either iz or you aint a Cypriot.
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Postby hasanaggi » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:00 am

do me a favour...........................................

I don't believe the story you were told because I can cross-reference with the UN’s version of the events and verify much of this…


and where in your report does it give you reason to not believe me? If anything does it not verify the deaths i am telling you of..............................oh and two cousins were also murdered whether or not you believe me........They were Murdered by the hands of Grivas and National Guard and now it seems also the Cypriot National Police were inviolved.....(combined effort huh ).....i never knew about the police.
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