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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:27 pm

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Little did they know what the British were leading them to. I am wondering of the awareness of these peasants who joined up. What were the recruitment tactics. Just money? (likely). Kill Greeks or EOKA members? Unlikely but only they will know.


I have it on good authority that the Turkish Cypriot auxillery police abused there power. They used to stop Greek Cypriot teenage boys and taunt them in various ways like pointing their guns at them whilst up against a wall. Others would randomly arrest innocent Greek Cypriot teenagers of being a part of or helping EOKA.



Maybe so, but in the thread commemorating the GC hero's of EOKA, it was admitted that women and children were employed in carrying 'things', acting as messengers. I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Whatever you do call them, as far as they were concerned they were helping the legal authorities to reduce the violence. What better than someone who can speak Greek . From experience it was obvious that the GC polce couldnt be trusted. As far as the TC auxillaries were concerned, it was damned if they do or damned if they dont'. In the list I posted you can see the numbers of GC Policemen murdered. It wasnt easy being stuck in the crossfire. Look where it got us. In deep s--t.
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Postby EPSILON » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:39 pm

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ahristos wrote:EOKA IS MADE AGAINST BRITISH COLONIALISTS ONLY.....



Have you seen the lists that exist of Cypriots killed too.


Yes some "Cypriots" who became the long arm of the British as policemen (mostly T/cs).Being a policeman during a liberation fight you just became part of the enemy military power.

The point here is not whether EOKA was a liberation army or terrorists but whether this certain EOKA's fight was finally correct to start. But profites MX not excists.



If one might accept EOKA's aims (as a TC) it was unfortunate that the EOKA targetted those unfortunates that were part of the 'policing' (TCs) and those that were non-supportive of the EOKA ( those poor GC souls who wished nothing more than to live in peace). Unfortunately I say, because the TCs inadvertently got 'killed' by the EOKA, thus instilling 'fear' into the TCs psyche. And once EOKA had a taste for TC blood, we know what happened next.

Can we turn the clock back? NO. But my advice is, Neither GCs nor the TCs should repeat the mistakes of the past.


You ae right but what you are missing here is that the certain pure T/cs were employed since 1956 by British on only one target.To create the hate of blood between the communities-British usualy succeed in their targets...



Little did they know what the British were leading them to. I am wondering of the awareness of these peasants who joined up. What were the recruitment tactics. Just money? (likely). Kill Greeks or EOKA members? Unlikely but only they will know.


Their (T/cs) aim was the same as today's pure people is-to be employed in public sector -but be a policeman under British during a liberation fight is there ,then you just find youselve be in sht.
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Postby halil » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:46 pm

still today if we are talking about EOKA ........ no hope for Cyprus .....

one side keep defending EOKA all the time and accepts no reactions from otherside . to bring such a topics into live everyday to whom helps .... what do u accept from the TC's to think about u my friends ......
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Postby hasanaggi » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:46 pm

Oracle wrote:The Turk-TCs were armed, and licensed to kill GCs, by the Brits who employed them.

Not only were the traitor Turk-TCs employed by the Brits to cause unrest wherever/whenever possible ... the very fact that an effective police-force ceased to exist for genuine civil cases, threw the country into near unruly chaos.

Imagine the ordinary GC civilian, without a police-force to turn to for general matters; let alone the danger of actually encountering one of these armed, licensed killers.

Those were dark, sad, satanic times for GCs ... Only EOKA gave hope for an end to this slavery.

Any uniformed Colonialist thugs could enter and search your home at all hours of the day or night ... cause injury and threats, even steal ... and then there was no friendly policeman to complain to :( ... just more paid uniformed thug TCs.

The TCs betrayed us to the Brits, and then betrayed us to the Turks. I do not want a third betrayal from them ... No more power to the Turks over our Island!



very eloquently put - almost sounds like you were there
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:13 am

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Oracle wrote:The Turk-TCs were armed, and licensed to kill GCs, by the Brits who employed them.

Not only were the traitor Turk-TCs employed by the Brits to cause unrest wherever/whenever possible ... the very fact that an effective police-force ceased to exist for genuine civil cases, threw the country into near unruly chaos.

Imagine the ordinary GC civilian, without a police-force to turn to for general matters; let alone the danger of actually encountering one of these armed, licensed killers.

Those were dark, sad, satanic times for GCs ... Only EOKA gave hope for an end to this slavery.

Any uniformed Colonialist thugs could enter and search your home at all hours of the day or night ... cause injury and threats, even steal ... and then there was no friendly policeman to complain to :( ... just more paid uniformed thug TCs.

The TCs betrayed us to the Brits, and then betrayed us to the Turks. I do not want a third betrayal from them ... No more power to the Turks over our Island!



very eloquently put - almost sounds like you were there


My personal unfortunate encounters with Turks, were at a later date.

The above are from the few anecdotes I have managed to extract from relatives and some RAF acquaintances.

Still, the Turks seem to supply regular enough experiences for most of us to have a taste of their tyranny at some point or other in our lives ....
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Postby Dr J » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:46 am

Maybe so, but in the thread commemorating the GC hero's of EOKA, it was admitted that women and children were employed in carrying 'things', acting as messengers. I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Whatever you do call them, as far as they were concerned they were helping the legal authorities to reduce the violence. What better than someone who can speak Greek . From experience it was obvious that the GC polce couldnt be trusted. As far as the TC auxillaries were concerned, it was damned if they do or damned if they dont'. In the list I posted you can see the numbers of GC Policemen murdered. It wasnt easy being stuck in the crossfire. Look where it got us. In deep s--t.


Deniz I think your being a bit naive to think that Turkish Cypriots, on the most part, who joined the British auxillary police, did so for the good of reducing the violence in Cyprus. Like I said before, close family members of mine have told me how they were teenagers in Nicosia in the 50's and Turkish Cypriot police would stop them, put them up against the wall and point a gun at their heads to taunt them. Turkish Cypriot civilians would also loot Greek Cypriot businesses after the curfew imposed on Greek Cypriots only. Turkish Cypriots did their fair bit of antagonising and could of stayed out of the cross fire at that moment in time anyway,
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:44 am

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Maybe so, but in the thread commemorating the GC hero's of EOKA, it was admitted that women and children were employed in carrying 'things', acting as messengers. I certainly would not like to be in their shoes. Whatever you do call them, as far as they were concerned they were helping the legal authorities to reduce the violence. What better than someone who can speak Greek . From experience it was obvious that the GC polce couldnt be trusted. As far as the TC auxillaries were concerned, it was damned if they do or damned if they dont'. In the list I posted you can see the numbers of GC Policemen murdered. It wasnt easy being stuck in the crossfire. Look where it got us. In deep s--t.


Deniz I think your being a bit naive to think that Turkish Cypriots, on the most part, who joined the British auxillary police, did so for the good of reducing the violence in Cyprus. Like I said before, close family members of mine have told me how they were teenagers in Nicosia in the 50's and Turkish Cypriot police would stop them, put them up against the wall and point a gun at their heads to taunt them. Turkish Cypriot civilians would also loot Greek Cypriot businesses after the curfew imposed on Greek Cypriots only. Turkish Cypriots did their fair bit of antagonising and could of stayed out of the cross fire at that moment in time anyway,



Not naive as much as you think. That was how the TCs were treated between the years 1963 - 1974 in addition they were kidnapped and murdered. We can find stories like this all over the place and all the time. Do either of our communities want the repetition of these. Lets hope any settlement will take account of past errors and secure a future where these actions are not repeated. Perhaps there should be total disarmament and the 'Police Forces' should also be unarmed too. Very 'Utopian' arent I.
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Postby ahristos » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:30 pm

HALIL NO NO NOT
PERHAPS YOU LUV SLAVERY
EOKA WASH A LIBERATION FRONT
WHY KENYANS ALGERIANS ECT DONT BLAMES THEM LIBERATION FRONTS
SO MENY CAUNTRIES HAD LIBERATION FRONTS
THAT IS THE REAL REASON WHY EOKA IS MADE AND NOT MORE
IS MADE FROM CYPRIOTS AGAINST BRITISH COLONIALISM
MENY LATER HAVE TRY TO CAPITALISE EOKA BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY
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Postby Dr J » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:19 pm

still today if we are talking about EOKA ........ no hope for Cyprus .....

one side keep defending EOKA all the time and accepts no reactions from otherside . to bring such a topics into live everyday to whom helps .... what do u accept from the TC's to think about u my friends ......


Halil, who keeps on bringing up EOKA when talking about a future united Cyprus? Its mostly Turkish propaganda that brings up EOKA. On the otherhand, we are not going to sit back and watch people make up lies and slander about our national struggle.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:21 pm

halil wrote:still today if we are talking about EOKA ........ no hope for Cyprus .....

one side keep defending EOKA all the time and accepts no reactions from otherside . to bring such a topics into live everyday to whom helps .... what do u accept from the TC's to think about u my friends ......


Conclusion:take all history of Cyprus after 1578 and just destroy it.T/cs have any other request from us to fulfill?
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