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[denizaksulu]

Armenian Cypriot,
Irish Roman Catholics (Taigs) are scum of the earth.They cause trouble no matter what country they settle in.Even New Zealand is fucked up,thanks to a Taig scumbag named Jim Bolger.Jim Bolger IS a Hell-bound supporter of Sinn Fein/I.R.A. as well as being a Hell-bound scummy Taig!

Aidan.

Aidan, you generalise too much. My son-in-law and his entire family are lovely peace loving people. There is good and bad in all societies. You are the proof of what I say
What you can do is try to get the two parties of the Irish divide to look forward to a complete co-existence. Like we are trying in Cyprus, with greater hurdles than the Irish have. They at least speak the same language and culture

[BC Numismatics]

Deniz,
What I was trying to explain to Armenian Cypriot is derived from personal experience.There is a huge world of difference between an Irish Protestant & a Taig.The Protestant is loyal & can be trusted,whereas,the Taig can't be trusted,as they always engage in treachery,not to mention,go out & commit crimes.

I have a very good friend who is an Ulster Protestant from County Armagh.She knows that I hate Taigs to the hilt.

Aidan.

[Oracle]

Halil, if a TC's history only began in 1960 then there is no way you are in any position to understand what 80% of the inhabitants of this island need to feel secure in a new solution.

DT, my dear friend you want to hear once more my History than ....

we all need secure my dear friend ! your history start from 74 !

here is the my history


The international treaties of 1960, by prohibiting Enosis or Partition, restricted the independence of Cyprus . Not a nation, but a bi-national partnership state was created in 1960.

serious differences arose between the two communities about the implementation and interpretation of the constitution. The Greek Cypriots argued that the complex mechanisms introduced to protect Turkish Cypriot interests were obstacles to efficient government. On 30 November 1963 , President Makarios advanced a series of constitutional amendments designed to eliminate some of these special provisions named “13 Points”. The Turkish Cypriots opposed such changes. The confrontation prompted widespread intercommunal fighting in December 1963, after which Turkish Cypriot participation in the central government ceased.

On 4 March 1964 , after the brutal Greek Cypriot attacks on the Turkish Cypriot community, the United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution (186), which provided stationing a United Nations Peace Keeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP). The aim was “to use its best efforts to prevent a recurrence of fighting and as necessary, to contribute to the maintenance and restoration of law and order and a return to normal conditions.
Although the Republic of Cyprus, founded in 1960, ended in 1963, when the Greek organs of government, administration and legislation proceeded to disregard the Turkish participatory rights as guaranteed by the Constitution of 1960, in the same resolution mentioned above (Resolution 186 of 1964), UN Security Council referred to the Government of Cyprus in a way which implied that the government manned only now by the Greek Cypriots, was the legitimate Government of Cyprus. Since then, the Greek Cypriots continue to usurp the titles of the bi-communal state. In fact, they are ‘the government of a state whose territory is restricted to the southern part of Cyprus and whose people are restricted to the Greek Cypriots living there’ (Heinze, 1997: 187). The Republic of Cyprus of today was created
when between 1963 and 1974, Greek organs of the Republic of Cyprus and parts thereof and new organs founded by these or by Greek Cypriots, seized power over a part of the island’s territory in a revolutionary process. They ceased to recognize fundamental parts of the Constitution of Cyprus of 1960 and ...separated themselves, and the Greek community from the Republic of Cyprus (Heinze, 1997: 188-89).
Unfortunately, the arrival of UNFICYP did not prevent Greek attacks on Turkish Cypriots and 1964-1974 period had been a harsh period for the Turkish side. For them, those years were marked by injustice, oppression, violence and discrimination. In 1967, the situation deteriorated, when a military junta seized power in Greece . In that year, Greek Cypriot House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution, declaring that their struggle in Cyprus will continue until the union of Cyprus with Greece is achieved and they continued their attacks against Turkish Cypriots to force them to accept ENOSIS. No effort of UNFICYP was enough to halt the Greek Cypriot atrocities.
All these events forced the Turkish Cypriots to organize their own national administration and this resulted in establishing the provisional Turkish Cypriot Administration, on 28 December 1967 . Up to the year 1974, both communities led a political life of their own.
In 1974, the attempted genocide against the Turkish Cypriots was repeated once more. On 15 July 1974 , a coup d’etat, led by Greek officers took place. The coup was organized by the military junta then ruling Greece , with the aim of overthrowing Makarios, the President of the Republic of Cyprus , and setting up a government, that would unite the island with Greece .

Not a nation, but a bi-national partnership state was created in 1960.

You can begin by explaining to me what a bi-national state is? http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries ... dex_en.htm

The type of state is described in the UN and EU as a Republic not a Bi-national state. Please show me where it says on the constitution that it is a bi-national state.

Actually it says
Article 1 []
The State of Cyprus is an independent and sovereign Republic with a presidential regime


You can then proceed to provide me evidence on this attempted genocide of the TC's when Rauf Denktash was quoted as saying " This has nothing to do with us but is a matter for the Greeks" (much to Turkey's anger)

In 1974, the attempted genocide against the Turkish Cypriots was repeated once more.

The only killings of TC's had began AFTER the invasion began.

i shall deal with the rest a little later but we can start with these.

Halil, I am also keenly awaiting for your reply to the above.

Where are you? Are you hiding?

He is busy telling everyone in Generals how Cyprus has always belonged to him (even though he only became a TC in 1960)

[zan]

Halil, if a TC's history only began in 1960 then there is no way you are in any position to understand what 80% of the inhabitants of this island need to feel secure in a new solution.

DT, my dear friend you want to hear once more my History than ....

we all need secure my dear friend ! your history start from 74 !

here is the my history


The international treaties of 1960, by prohibiting Enosis or Partition, restricted the independence of Cyprus . Not a nation, but a bi-national partnership state was created in 1960.

serious differences arose between the two communities about the implementation and interpretation of the constitution. The Greek Cypriots argued that the complex mechanisms introduced to protect Turkish Cypriot interests were obstacles to efficient government. On 30 November 1963 , President Makarios advanced a series of constitutional amendments designed to eliminate some of these special provisions named “13 Points”. The Turkish Cypriots opposed such changes. The confrontation prompted widespread intercommunal fighting in December 1963, after which Turkish Cypriot participation in the central government ceased.

On 4 March 1964 , after the brutal Greek Cypriot attacks on the Turkish Cypriot community, the United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution (186), which provided stationing a United Nations Peace Keeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP). The aim was “to use its best efforts to prevent a recurrence of fighting and as necessary, to contribute to the maintenance and restoration of law and order and a return to normal conditions.
Although the Republic of Cyprus, founded in 1960, ended in 1963, when the Greek organs of government, administration and legislation proceeded to disregard the Turkish participatory rights as guaranteed by the Constitution of 1960, in the same resolution mentioned above (Resolution 186 of 1964), UN Security Council referred to the Government of Cyprus in a way which implied that the government manned only now by the Greek Cypriots, was the legitimate Government of Cyprus. Since then, the Greek Cypriots continue to usurp the titles of the bi-communal state. In fact, they are ‘the government of a state whose territory is restricted to the southern part of Cyprus and whose people are restricted to the Greek Cypriots living there’ (Heinze, 1997: 187). The Republic of Cyprus of today was created
when between 1963 and 1974, Greek organs of the Republic of Cyprus and parts thereof and new organs founded by these or by Greek Cypriots, seized power over a part of the island’s territory in a revolutionary process. They ceased to recognize fundamental parts of the Constitution of Cyprus of 1960 and ...separated themselves, and the Greek community from the Republic of Cyprus (Heinze, 1997: 188-89).
Unfortunately, the arrival of UNFICYP did not prevent Greek attacks on Turkish Cypriots and 1964-1974 period had been a harsh period for the Turkish side. For them, those years were marked by injustice, oppression, violence and discrimination. In 1967, the situation deteriorated, when a military junta seized power in Greece . In that year, Greek Cypriot House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution, declaring that their struggle in Cyprus will continue until the union of Cyprus with Greece is achieved and they continued their attacks against Turkish Cypriots to force them to accept ENOSIS. No effort of UNFICYP was enough to halt the Greek Cypriot atrocities.
All these events forced the Turkish Cypriots to organize their own national administration and this resulted in establishing the provisional Turkish Cypriot Administration, on 28 December 1967 . Up to the year 1974, both communities led a political life of their own.
In 1974, the attempted genocide against the Turkish Cypriots was repeated once more. On 15 July 1974 , a coup d’etat, led by Greek officers took place. The coup was organized by the military junta then ruling Greece , with the aim of overthrowing Makarios, the President of the Republic of Cyprus , and setting up a government, that would unite the island with Greece .

Not a nation, but a bi-national partnership state was created in 1960.

You can begin by explaining to me what a bi-national state is? http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries ... dex_en.htm

The type of state is described in the UN and EU as a Republic not a Bi-national state. Please show me where it says on the constitution that it is a bi-national state.

Actually it says
Article 1 []
The State of Cyprus is an independent and sovereign Republic with a presidential regime


You can then proceed to provide me evidence on this attempted genocide of the TC's when Rauf Denktash was quoted as saying " This has nothing to do with us but is a matter for the Greeks" (much to Turkey's anger)

In 1974, the attempted genocide against the Turkish Cypriots was repeated once more.

The only killings of TC's had began AFTER the invasion began.

i shall deal with the rest a little later but we can start with these.

Halil, I am also keenly awaiting for your reply to the above.

Where are you? Are you hiding?

He is busy telling everyone in Generals how Cyprus has always belonged to him (even though he only became a TC in 1960)

Oi! DT is that the same agreement that says the TCs should have 30% involvement in government and that nothing can be changed in the constitution without our say so????Hmmmmm!!!! Seems you can pick and choose at your will what you want to say and then pick up on a single word that makes no difference

I do not see a date on when the attempted genocide was quoted either......

[Cem]

Deniz,
What I was trying to explain to Armenian Cypriot is derived from personal experience.There is a huge world of difference between an Irish Protestant & a Taig.The Protestant is loyal & can be trusted,whereas,the Taig can't be trusted,as they always engage in treachery,not to mention,go out & commit crimes.

I have a very good friend who is an Ulster Protestant from County Armagh.She knows that I hate Taigs to the hilt.
Aidan.

Why ?? Just because the Taigs have been banging your mother ??
You should be proud you m...f.. r.
At least a glitter of some noble blood is flowing in your sewage system (veins)..

[RichardB]

Deniz,
What I was trying to explain to Armenian Cypriot is derived from personal experience.There is a huge world of difference between an Irish Protestant & a Taig.The Protestant is loyal & can be trusted,whereas,the Taig can't be trusted,as they always engage in treachery,not to mention,go out & commit crimes.

I have a very good friend who is an Ulster Protestant from County Armagh.She knows that I hate Taigs to the hilt.
Aidan.

Why ?? Just because the Taigs have been banging your mother ??
You should be proud you m...f.. r.
At least a glitter of some noble blood is flowing in your sewage system (veins)..

Cem

Good man Pink Floyd

[utu]

I remember seeing a political cartoon once some years ago. It depicted the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. The pics showed the same person in two different frames: the one labeled 'terrorist' had the person brandishing an AK-47 whilst the frame labeled 'freedom fighter' had the person brandishing an M-16...
I guess the arms suppliers denote who is who...

[tessintrnc]

Deniz,
What I was trying to explain to Armenian Cypriot is derived from personal experience.There is a huge world of difference between an Irish Protestant & a Taig.The Protestant is loyal & can be trusted,whereas,the Taig can't be trusted,as they always engage in treachery,not to mention,go out & commit crimes.

I have a very good friend who is an Ulster Protestant from County Armagh.She knows that I hate Taigs to the hilt.

Aidan.

You are a very sad person Nadia. You use that horrible word to brand a whole society. If you called a black person Nigger in these enlightened times, you would be branded - and quite rightly so, a bloody racist. Just in case some members don't realise how offensive this word is:

Taig (also Teague, Teg and Teig) is a derogatory term for an Irish Catholic.
Rarely heard outside Ireland and Scotland, taig is the most vitriolic slur word in use against Irish Catholics and has been used by loyalists in Northern Ireland in slogans such as "If guns are made for shooting, then skulls are made to crack. You’ve never seen a better Taig than one with a bullet in his back" and "Don’t be vague, kill a Taig".

You insult my family, you little low-life, everyone knows what you think by now so just give it a bloody rest will you? Please?

Tess

[Tim Drayton]

Deniz,
What I was trying to explain to Armenian Cypriot is derived from personal experience.There is a huge world of difference between an Irish Protestant & a Taig.The Protestant is loyal & can be trusted,whereas,the Taig can't be trusted,as they always engage in treachery,not to mention,go out & commit crimes.

I have a very good friend who is an Ulster Protestant from County Armagh.She knows that I hate Taigs to the hilt.

Aidan.

You are a very sad person Nadia. You use that horrible word to brand a whole society. If you called a black person Nigger in these enlightened times, you would be branded - and quite rightly so, a bloody racist. Just in case some members don't realise how offensive this word is:

Taig (also Teague, Teg and Teig) is a derogatory term for an Irish Catholic.
Rarely heard outside Ireland and Scotland, taig is the most vitriolic slur word in use against Irish Catholics and has been used by loyalists in Northern Ireland in slogans such as "If guns are made for shooting, then skulls are made to crack. You’ve never seen a better Taig than one with a bullet in his back" and "Don’t be vague, kill a Taig".

You insult my family, you little low-life, everyone knows what you think by now so just give it a bloody rest will you? Please?

Tess

I can back you up there. I spent my youth in West Central Scotland and can confirm that this is a totally unacceptable term.

To give you an idea of the warped bigotry that existed in that part of the world, when in the seventies a large number of Glasgow Rangers supporters were crushed to death when a queue waiting to enter the Ibrox football ground surged forward uncontrollably, sales of orange squash rocketed in bars in Catholic parts of Glasgow. A certain amount of cultural background knowledge is required to understand this.

I believe that things have changed a lot in Glasgow. It is curious to see on this forum how bigotries seem to live in distant emigre communities long after they have subsided in the communites that originally gave birth to them.