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Atheism Debates Banned in Turkey ...

Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:33 am

Seems the Turkish crackpot creationist Harun Yahya (Adnan Oktar) has been getting atheism debating fora banned from Internet access in Turkey by Court Order.

Another nail in the coffin for Freedom of Speech in this EU hopeful and a further rise of Muslim fundamentalism?

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007 ... _slice.php
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:58 am

You seem to be content on making a fool of yourself on a regular basis re Oracle. The charge is for defamation and not against Atheism. :roll: :roll:

Dear Sir,

We have applied to you to remove the unlawful statements regarding my client Mr. Adnan Oktar (who is the author of the books written under the pen name Harun Yahya) in your blogs. The number of our attempts to inform and warn you regarding these defamation blogs must have been at least twenty, many times through your support page, a couple of times to your legal department and we even sent a regular mail to Mr. Matt Mullenweg. Most of our attempts were unanswered.

These defamation blogs contained slanders to some of my client’s friends as well. They also applied WordPress.com support with their official ID cards and a representative directed them to write to the legal department. So they did but again no response from legal.

So we have become obliged to apply to Turkish judicial courts to stop this defamation executed through your services. By the decision of Fatih 2nd Civil Court of First Instance, number 2007/195, access to WordPress.com has been blocked in Turkey.

The organization, which is led by Edip Yuksel, responsible for these defamation blogs in question are currently up for crimes such as “building an organization to commit crime” in Turkey. The sites of Edip Yuksel, www.yahyaharun.com, www.19.org, www.calinmisgenclik.com and also the blog under your site with the user name http://adnanoktar.wordpress.com have been blocked by Turkish judicial courts in Turkey before(by Gaziosmanpasa Civil Court of First Instance, dated 06.04.2007 and decision number 2007/130 D. Is) . We have also sent you the official documents on this judicial decision in one of our applications to you.

Since Edip Yuksel and his crime organization could easily start new blogs in your site, they had even launched a campaign in opening defamation blogs regarding my client and had explicitly expressed this organized endeavor in his defamation blogs:

“In order to make people hear our voice, let everyone start new blogs from websites such as http://blogcu.com or http://wordpress.com and let them copy the posts on those blogs and paste them to their own. You can start several at once, if possible. Please remember that the name you will give to the blogs, should be related to Adnan Oktar or Harun Yahya in order to find them quickly through Google search. If the names are already taken, you can solve this problem by using characters such as “_” (Adnan_Oktar) or numbers such as AdnanOktar100, Adnan_Oktar_50.”

The aim of all of these blogs that he and his organization starts, was to insult my client. All of them were completely full of slanderous statements. There are still some sites left open -not accessible from Turkey, but still accessible abroad - :

http://adnanoktar.wordpress.com
http://adnanoktarveislam.wordpress.com/
http://fitikado.wordpress.com

http://oktarbabuna.wordpress.com
http://adnancilar.wordpress.com/
http://adnanoktarveislam.wordpress.com/
http://whoisharunyahya.wordpress.com/
http://adnanoktargercekleri.wordpress.com/
http://quiestharunyahya.wordpress.com/
http://harunyahyaarabic.wordpress.com/
http://safsataciharunyahya.wordpress.com/
http://savsatalaracevap.wordpress.com/

The below are taken but still empty:

http://adnanzedeler.wordpress.com/
http://kodadiabi.wordpress.com/

As we have requested before:

WE DEMAND YOU TO REMOVE AND PROHIBIT ANY BLOGS IN YOUR SITE THAT CONTAIN MY CLIENT’S NAME ADNAN OKTAR OR HIS PEN NAME HARUN YAHYA OR VARIOUS COMBINATION OF THESE 4 NAMES.

Yours sincerely,

Attorneys of Mr. Adnan Oktar (Harun Yahya)
Atty. Kerim Kalkan / Atty. Ceyhun Gökdoğan (Istanbul Barr register number:
27405)

Address: Darulaceze caddesi, Bilal Is Merkezi, A Blok, D:5. Okmeydani Sisli
Istanbul
Telephone: 90 212 220 31 20
Fax: 90 212 220 74 21
E-mail: [email protected]
[email protected]


http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2007/08/19 ... in-turkey/


Personal attacks are outlawed on this site and be complained about and if proved then have to be acted upon. :roll: :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:07 am

That's not the whole story. All the sites banned have one thing in common. They debunk creationism and are atheistic.

Access to a British Atheism forum was banned recently without being the subject of the original defamation Court Order.
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:27 am

Oracle wrote:That's not the whole story. All the sites banned have one thing in common. They debunk creationism and are atheistic.

Access to a British Atheism forum was banned recently without being the subject of the original defamation Court Order.


Read the charge Oracle......If these sites cannot police themselves and abide by Net rules then perhaps they should even be shut down....Now if Turkey stops debate all together then let me know because I would have something to say about that.... :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:36 am

The debates were about atheism which the creationist used to get the court order.

The recent British atheism site access ban was not part of those claims ...

First the youtube ban now British scientific debating fora :roll:
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:39 am

Oracle wrote:The debates were about atheism which the creationist used to get the court order.

The recent British atheism site access ban was not part of those claims ...

First the youtube ban now British scientific debating fora :roll:


Keep going girl.......Ever thought about becoming a clown??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:40 am

Why? ... are you retiring?
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:41 am

Oracle wrote:Why? ... are you retiring?


I will never give up my red nose.....It is a part of me!!!! :evil:
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Postby Meraklis! » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:46 am

turkey telling people what to do and how to think! well i never whatever next? :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:48 am

January 16, 2008 at 20:12:06

Muslims suppressing atheism in Turkey

by Kelly O'Connor Page 1 of 2 page(s)

www.opednews.com

Yesterday, I blogged about Muslims attempting to take down pictures of their invisible friend on Wikipedia via petition. Today we got a letter from the head of the number one Turkish atheist site which has been removed by the Turkish government twice. Once under the original domain and again under another domain. Unfortunately, the owner is unable to fight this in court because to do so, he would have to identify himself which, if you're familiar, will end up resulting in his head being chopped off by the peaceful and loving Muslims who work for Allah. If you speak Turkish and you are an atheist please support this site...

Creationists control Internet access in Turkey

Ateizm.org , the most prominent non-profit Turkish web site on atheism and religions was closed for the second time in December 2007, under orders from a Turkish court. Ateizm.org was established in 2000 by three young Turkish atheists who devoted themselves to the enlightenment of Turkish people. Ateizm.org hosts an online discussion board named Ateistforum ( forum.ateizm.org), one of the busiest forums for the Turkish speaking online community over the Internet. Ateizm.org received 1000 visits a day at its peak when it was open.
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