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Which of the two would you prefer as guarantor power?

Greece
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Russia
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Russia Guarantor

Postby kafenes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:42 am

I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby Big Al » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:53 am

kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby kafenes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:27 am

Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
The number of responses indicates the stupidity of your question


You're the twit for responding for something you think was stupid, so stay out. The purpose of this poll is much deeper then your bird brain will comprehend.
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby Big Al » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:11 am

kafenes wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
The number of responses indicates the stupidity of your question


You're the twit for responding for something you think was stupid, so stay out. The purpose of this poll is much deeper then your bird brain will comprehend.


You must having the same fantasies as Oracle regarding Russia coming to your rescue and fighting your battle for you against those mean turks.
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Postby Big Al » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:16 am

I'll get you some vaseline and tissues, enjoy the fantasy
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:31 am

Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
The number of responses indicates the stupidity of your question


You're the twit for responding for something you think was stupid, so stay out. The purpose of this poll is much deeper then your bird brain will comprehend.


You must having the same fantasies as Oracle regarding Russia coming to your rescue and fighting your battle for you against those mean turks.


Turkey has failed Cyprus as a guarantor power, as it was obligated under The Treaty of Guarantee to stabilise Cyprus in line with it's current 1960 Zurich constitution and to also respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the island. Turkey has done neither, and hence is a failed Guarantor. The Treaty of Guarantee has been violated and as such, Cypriots can never again accept Turkey as a Guarantor.

This is The Treaty of Guarantee:

CYPRUS-TREATY OF GUARANTEE
Nicosia, 16 August 1960

ARTICLE IV
In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to the representations or measure necessary to ensure observance of those provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each of the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of reestablishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.

http://teaching.law.cornell.edu/faculty ... rantee.pdf


And this is how Turkey had failed Cyprus as a Guarantor:

“There were thus not one but two military operations carried out by Turkey on
Cyprus. The first one, launched on July 20, had seemed to be both consistent with and a
natural extension of fourteen years of Turkish policy in support of the 1960 Treaties of
Guarantee and Alliance. However, with the successful landing of troops on Cyprus in
July, Turkish objectives appear to have changed dramatically. Suddenly, Turkey was no
longer arguing in defense of the status quo, but rather was seeking to overthrow it.
Turkey’s objective now became the replacement of the governmental structure that had
been in place since 1960 with a framework based upon the concept of taksim, the division of the island’s Greek and Turkish communities.”


TURKEY CAN NEVER BE A GUARANTOR TO CYPRUS AS TURKEY HAS VIOLATED THE TREATY OF GUARANTEE ITSELF.

I voted for Russia as Guarantor.

Sources: As per link above + GR post
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby Big Al » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:48 am

Paphitis wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
The number of responses indicates the stupidity of your question


You're the twit for responding for something you think was stupid, so stay out. The purpose of this poll is much deeper then your bird brain will comprehend.


You must having the same fantasies as Oracle regarding Russia coming to your rescue and fighting your battle for you against those mean turks.


Turkey has failed Cyprus as a guarantor power, as it was obligated under The Treaty of Guarantee to stabilise Cyprus in line with it's current 1960 Zurich constitution and to also respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the island. Turkey has done neither, and hence is a failed Guarantor. The Treaty of Guarantee has been violated and as such, Cypriots can never again accept Turkey as a Guarantor.

This is The Treaty of Guarantee:

CYPRUS-TREATY OF GUARANTEE
Nicosia, 16 August 1960

ARTICLE IV
In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to the representations or measure necessary to ensure observance of those provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each of the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of reestablishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.

http://teaching.law.cornell.edu/faculty ... rantee.pdf


And this is how Turkey had failed Cyprus as a Guarantor:

“There were thus not one but two military operations carried out by Turkey on
Cyprus. The first one, launched on July 20, had seemed to be both consistent with and a
natural extension of fourteen years of Turkish policy in support of the 1960 Treaties of
Guarantee and Alliance. However, with the successful landing of troops on Cyprus in
July, Turkish objectives appear to have changed dramatically. Suddenly, Turkey was no
longer arguing in defense of the status quo, but rather was seeking to overthrow it.
Turkey’s objective now became the replacement of the governmental structure that had
been in place since 1960 with a framework based upon the concept of taksim, the division of the island’s Greek and Turkish communities.”


[b]TURKEY CAN NEVER BE A GUARANTOR TO CYPRUS AS TURKEY HAS DEMONSTRATED AND VIOLATED THE TREATY OF GUARANTEE ITSELF.[size=18][/size][/b]

I voted for Russia as Guarantor.

Sources: As per link above + GR post


Pahpitis, you can say "Turkey can never be a guarantor to Cyprus" over and over again until you're blue in the face, the funny thing is Turkey is a guarantor power and both the GC President and the GC community will not only accept this but vote for it too in a referendum if you want a reunified Cyprus...watch and see :lol:
You will have to accept it...Eshek gibi !!!
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Postby kafenes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:05 am

Big Al wrote:I'll get you some vaseline and tissues, enjoy the fantasy


This has nothing to do with fantasy and from your reaction it is obvious you are scared shit of the thought. Get some extra vaseline, you will need it for those S300s and don't forget lots of toilet paper.
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Re: Russia Guarantor

Postby Kifeas » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:16 am

Big Al wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Big Al wrote:
kafenes wrote:I have decided that I would prefer Russia as a guarantor power instead of Greece. Is there a chance that this could ever happen? Which would you prefer if you are a GC and had to choose?


Please tell me this poll is some sort of joke and not supposed to be taken seriously........what a twit!
The number of responses indicates the stupidity of your question


You're the twit for responding for something you think was stupid, so stay out. The purpose of this poll is much deeper then your bird brain will comprehend.


You must having the same fantasies as Oracle regarding Russia coming to your rescue and fighting your battle for you against those mean turks.


Turkey has failed Cyprus as a guarantor power, as it was obligated under The Treaty of Guarantee to stabilise Cyprus in line with it's current 1960 Zurich constitution and to also respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the island. Turkey has done neither, and hence is a failed Guarantor. The Treaty of Guarantee has been violated and as such, Cypriots can never again accept Turkey as a Guarantor.

This is The Treaty of Guarantee:

CYPRUS-TREATY OF GUARANTEE
Nicosia, 16 August 1960

ARTICLE IV
In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to the representations or measure necessary to ensure observance of those provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each of the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of reestablishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.

http://teaching.law.cornell.edu/faculty ... rantee.pdf


And this is how Turkey had failed Cyprus as a Guarantor:

“There were thus not one but two military operations carried out by Turkey on
Cyprus. The first one, launched on July 20, had seemed to be both consistent with and a
natural extension of fourteen years of Turkish policy in support of the 1960 Treaties of
Guarantee and Alliance. However, with the successful landing of troops on Cyprus in
July, Turkish objectives appear to have changed dramatically. Suddenly, Turkey was no
longer arguing in defense of the status quo, but rather was seeking to overthrow it.
Turkey’s objective now became the replacement of the governmental structure that had
been in place since 1960 with a framework based upon the concept of taksim, the division of the island’s Greek and Turkish communities.”


[b]TURKEY CAN NEVER BE A GUARANTOR TO CYPRUS AS TURKEY HAS DEMONSTRATED AND VIOLATED THE TREATY OF GUARANTEE ITSELF.[size=18][/size][/b]

I voted for Russia as Guarantor.

Sources: As per link above + GR post


Pahpitis, you can say "Turkey can never be a guarantor to Cyprus" over and over again until you're blue in the face, the funny thing is Turkey is a guarantor power and both the GC President and the GC community will not only accept this but vote for it too in a referendum if you want a reunified Cyprus...watch and see :lol:
You will have to accept it...Eshek gibi !!!


Of cource, the alternative to this is to "Eshek gibi" not have a "reunified Cyprus" (the current split is illegal anyway,) so that in 2009 we will be able to "Eshek gibi" kick your "motherland quarantor" out of her EU acession process. Your community will "Eshek gibi" continue to remain isolated in the north (no chance for recognition,) until you and your "motherland" "Eshek gibi" come to your senses!
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Postby Big Al » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:34 am

kafenes wrote:
Big Al wrote:I'll get you some vaseline and tissues, enjoy the fantasy


This has nothing to do with fantasy and from your reaction it is obvious you are scared shit of the thought. Get some extra vaseline, you will need it for those S300s and don't forget lots of toilet paper.


Kafenes,
Keep hoping mate, you never know you might see a pig fly past your window one day too!! :D
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