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[Nikitas]

The assumpion is also that the owners of the walls on which the graffiti were written object. If they state that they welcome the graffiti it changes the nature of the property damage charge too. But we are looking at minutiae here. The main point is that an action which in most countries would go unnoticed has become such a major deal.

[BirKibrisli]

Asil Nadir’s mouthpiece <i>Kıbrıs</i> carries two reports about this case today. Here are my translations. The first is a report on the court proceedings themselves, and the second summarises a statement issued by the United Cyprus Party concerning the case.

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Four young people in their twenties named Çetin Edip, Aziz Şah, Özce Nizam and Kan Yektaoğlu, detained by the police for writing slanderous statements such as “occupying Turkish army sod off” targeting the Security Forces Command on the walls of a number of buildings in the capital of Nicosia in August and September, were yesterday taken for a bail hearing before Nicosia District Court Penal Case Judge Fügen Ulutekin.
Judge Ulutekin, taking into consideration that based on the evidence presented the investigation had been completed, released the four accused on condition that a personal bail bond applicable to a TRNC citizen in a manner to be approved by the registrar of 10 thousand New Turkish Lira each be signed, appearance be made on a weekly basis at their nearest police station, and a ban be imposed on travelling abroad until they are sentenced.
The young people were greeted as they were brought to the court for the bail hearing with applause by their families and relatives who had assembled in the court grounds.
Assistant Inspector Oral Ordu, who serves in the Prosecution Branch Section attached to the Nicosia Directorate of Police and who is responsible for investigating the case, explained in the evidence under oath that he presented to the court that the accused named Çetin Edip, Aziz Şah, Özce Nizam and Kan Yektaoğlu were wanted for writing slanderous slogans targeted at the Security Forces Command on the walls of a number of buildings in Nicosia in August and September and they were arrested following their apprehension in the course of writing slogans on a wall in Dr. Burhan Nalbantoğlu Street on 8 September.
Ordu, stating that the accused were guilty of the offences of “writing slanderous statements” and “willful damage”, indicated that the accused had confessed to committing the offences.
Ordu, stating that the investigation had been completed, moved that such bail conditions as the court deemed fit be applied to the accused until such time as they were sentenced.
Judge Ulutekin, taking into consideration that based on the evidence presented the investigation had been completed, released the four accused on condition that a personal bail bond applicable to a TRNC citizen in a manner to be approved by the registrar of 10 thousand New Turkish Lira each be signed, appearance be made on a weekly basis at their nearest police station, and a ban be imposed on travelling abroad until they are sentenced.
The young people complied with the bail conditions and were released.

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United Cyprus Party (BKP) executive committee member Abdullah Korkmazhan said in a statement that bail conditions of 10 thousand New Turkish lira and a ban on foreign travel had been imposed on the young people and noted that three of the young people were studying abroad and that “the significance of the situation emerges when it is considered that in similar cases such stern measures have not been taken.”
Korkmazhan, saying that “The group which the regime, which has arrested the young people on flimsy grounds and applied psychological torture to them in an attempt to intimidate them, is essentially trying to intimidate is the progressive movement which is organising and developing outside the Republican Turkish Party (CTP) which is under its control”, claimed that the conduct of the police in detaining the young people and throughout the process “once more demonstrates that there is no democracy or law in the TRNC, contrary to what some would allege.”
Korkmazhan, claiming that responsibility for these acts rests with “Republic of Turkey military and civilian bureaucrats, local collaborators and the clique dominating the Republican Turkish Party/United Forces (CTP/BG) which approves what has happened with its silence”, said “We violently condemn these groups.”

The irony is that the person who gave the name to this street was none other than the man who was one of the original 4 people (with Denktash and two others from Turkey) who founded the TMT back in the 50s....He would certainly be turning in his grave now...

I wonder if the boys knew about that...

[Bananiot]

Interesting to know Birkibrisli.

[BirKibrisli]

Interesting to know Birkibrisli.

[pantheman]

This case has gone bananas, child rapists and murderers get let than that, this is just the illegal regime exercising its authority and letting everyone know just WHO is in charge over there.

F me bail, reporting to the cops twice a week and no foreign travel for some shit graffitti, there is definately something wrong here.

And this is the backward country we want't to let into a th pregressive EU, we must be F nuts.

Poor souls, I would like to know what Zan and VP think, I bet they are calling for hanging for these lads insulting their turkishness and going against mama.

[Tim Drayton]

This case has gone bananas, child rapists and murderers get let than that, this is just the illegal regime exercising its authority and letting everyone know just WHO is in charge over there.

F me bail, reporting to the cops twice a week and no foreign travel for some shit graffitti, there is definately something wrong here.

And this is the backward country we want't to let into a th pregressive EU, we must be F nuts.

Poor souls, I would like to know what Zan and VP think, I bet they are calling for hanging for these lads insulting their turkishness and going against mama.

This is just pending the hearing at which they will be sentenced. I hope this ends up in the European Court of Human Rights. Don't forget they also had their computers confiscated in police raids on their homes.

[BirKibrisli]

And here is my translation of the relevant part of Arif Hasan Tahsin's article in AFRIKA's online edition yesterday...


I haven't been in a good mood for a few days now...They arrested our youth..They searched their homes.Locked them up. Where is the lockup these days? Still at Sarayonu Police station? If it is there,I wonder who is locked up in Mida's room now...Is the drawing on the wall,the one which shows a woman on top of a man,drawn by a capable hand,still there???
The youth wrote "Turkish occupation Army sod off!" on Nicosia walls...What did you expect them to write???


My generation wasted their lives on these streets..Walking at night before the Republic,and patrolling the streets after the troubles,we were proud to hear the voices of crying babies...We thought we were preparing a peaceful future for them...They were to live without fear in the land of their birth...Who would've thought that what we were preparing was a life under occupation? We killed and we died to make our community slaves of Turkey,"Our Guarantor"...How will we look these Youths in the eye???What will we say?? We can't even apologise,that would be insulting them...

We were fighting to stop the GC police from searching our houses,searching us in the streets,arresting us,locking us up...And we succeeded...They did none of that...But under Turkey's administration our houses were searched,we were arrested,tried at Military and Civilian courts,and jailed...For "insulting Turkishness" for saying "you sold us to the British"...

If these Youths are in jail today it is our fault.We are the ones who brought on the Turkish occupation.We should've know what Turkey was like. The mentality which rules Turkey today is the continuation of the mentality which once used Serbian soldiers to attack Turkic tribes in Anatolia...Which killed Turkish people for being Alawites...The same mentality which denied the existence of the Kurds,the Pontians,and the Circussians,and tried to exterminate them...The menality which toppled the Hatay Republic...And now they are trying it on us,and they have come a long way...They enslaved us despite international law and our own agreements...

I congratulate these Youths for trying to protect the rights of their own people.And I wish them success.The probability of success is very high...They have both the law of the Republic and International law on their side...There are also a great number of Cypriots living all over the world...No occupier ruled Cyprus forever.Our "guarantor",Turkey will go too...So will Greece,so will the British...Cyprus is ours.The Cypriots.In Cyprus we are the innkeepers,the occupiers the travellers...

Who says all TCs support the Turkish Army????








http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.php?name=Kose_Yazilari&op=viewarticle&artid=1017

[Nikitas]

I wonder, does "foreign travel" include the south? Probably does, to reinforce the idea of the TRNC being separate and independent.

[miltiades]

And here is my translation of the relevant part of Arif Hasan Tahsin's article in AFRIKA's online edition yesterday...


I haven't been in a good mood for a few days now...They arrested our youth..They searched their homes.Locked them up. Where is the lockup these days? Still at Sarayonu Police station? If it is there,I wonder who is locked up in Mida's room now...Is the drawing on the wall,the one which shows a woman on top of a man,drawn by a capable hand,still there???
The youth wrote "Turkish occupation Army sod off!" on Nicosia walls...What did you expect them to write???


My generation wasted their lives on these streets..Walking at night before the Republic,and patrolling the streets after the troubles,we were proud to hear the voices of crying babies...We thought we were preparing a peaceful future for them...They were to live without fear in the land of their birth...Who would've thought that what we were preparing was a life under occupation? We killed and we died to make our community slaves of Turkey,"Our Guarantor"...How will we look these Youths in the eye???What will we say?? We can't even apologise,that would be insulting them...

We were fighting to stop the GC police from searching our houses,searching us in the streets,arresting us,locking us up...And we succeeded...They did none of that...But under Turkey's administration our houses were searched,we were arrested,tried at Military and Civilian courts,and jailed...For "insulting Turkishness" for saying "you sold us to the British"...

If these Youths are in jail today it is our fault.We are the ones who brought on the Turkish occupation.We should've know what Turkey was like. The mentality which rules Turkey today is the continuation of the mentality which once used Serbian soldiers to attack Turkic tribes in Anatolia...Which killed Turkish people for being Alawites...The same mentality which denied the existence of the Kurds,the Pontians,and the Circussians,and tried to exterminate them...The menality which toppled the Hatay Republic...And now they are trying it on us,and they have come a long way...They enslaved us despite international law and our own agreements...

I congratulate these Youths for trying to protect the rights of their own people.And I wish them success.The probability of success is very high...They have both the law of the Republic and International law on their side...There are also a great number of Cypriots living all over the world...No occupier ruled Cyprus forever.Our "guarantor",Turkey will go too...So will Greece,so will the British...Cyprus is ours.The Cypriots.In Cyprus we are the innkeepers,the occupiers the travellers...

Who says all TCs support the Turkish Army????








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Bir , we are right then by calling ourselves the true Cypriots !!
We are not a voice in the wilderness but very much alive in most Cypriots.
I LOVE THE FOLLOWING , MUSIC TO MY EARS !!
""""No occupier ruled Cyprus forever.Our "guarantor",Turkey will go too...So will Greece,so will the British...Cyprus is ours.The Cypriots.In Cyprus we are the innkeepers,the occupiers the travellers...[/b]

[Tim Drayton]

I wonder, does "foreign travel" include the south? Probably does, to reinforce the idea of the TRNC being separate and independent.

Yes, it will. On the TC side, they check everybody's details on the computer before letting them pass.