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[zan]

Thanks Zan..i am fine thanks

Glad to hear it Alexios.

[Vuryek]

Vuryek, don't misunderstand me, I am not disuputing what you say about importing trade unions from Turkey, but this is the first time I have heard about such a development. Are you saying that Turkish Cypriots are now being encouraged/pressurised into leaving Turkish Cypriot trade unions and joining mainland Turkish unions instead? Can you provide any links to information about this (in Turkish or English)? If it is true, it is a worrying development, and eerily harks back to the campaign waged in the late fifties by the TMT to force Turkish Cypriot workers to leave PEO-affiliated trade unions, which cost the lives of people like Fazıl Önder. I only hope we do not see a repeat of such tactics.

Mr. Tim

Sorry for delay. I couldn't find any english links because of lack of free time. But I can post few Turkish links which I recorded before. I just checked them, they are still working.

It seems, you alredy solved the puzzle. Believe me, you explained everything better than I can. So no comment, with respect.

http://haber.turk724.net/113223/haberle ... B1ld%C4%B1

http://www.haberhavadis.com/Newsdetails.aspx?NID=19846

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php ... c_Haberler

http://haber.mynet.com/detay/ekonomi/Tu ... 08/N170511

[Vuryek]

To VURYEK;

Do u have any idea why YKP left the UNİTED CYPRUS PLATFORM .
And calling to unite under the CYPRUS PEACE PLATFORM.
what is the trouble ? Who were in United Cyprus Platform .

it was on yesterday and today news .But from news sources we can not understand why they left the platform .

here is the news only we can get .

YKP “Birleşik Kıbrıs Platformu”ndan çekildi

Yeni Kıbrıs Partisi (YKP), “Birleşik Kıbrıs Platformu”yla ilişkilerini sonlandırmaya karar verdiğini açıkladı.
“Barış İçin İki Toplumlu İnisiyatif”le de ne Partinin ne de başta Yürütme Kurulu Sekreteri Murat Kanatlı olmak üzere herhangi bir yetkilisinin ilişkisi olduğunu belirten YKP, Partinin “Kıbrıs Barış Platformu” bileşeni olduğunu vurguladı.
YKP Yürütme Kurulu Sekreteri Murat Kanatlı, yaptığı yazılı açıklamada, “çözüm ve yeniden birleşmeden yana olan Kıbrıs’ın tüm örgütlerini”, Kıbrıs Barış Platformu’nun içinde veya Platform’la birlikte mücadele etmeye çağırdı.
Kanatlı, ayrıca, “YKP, Kıbrıs’ın birleştirilmesi ve sınırsız, silahsız, garantörsüz bir Kıbrıs için çeşitli platformlarda, farklı örgütlerle eşitlik, saygı, tolerans ve ilkeler çerçevesinde iş ve güç birliği yaparak mücadelesini sürdürmeye de kararlıdır” dedi.

17-09-2008


declaration from PEACE PLATFORM was as follows:

Cyprus Peace Platform common declaration
The root cause of our island’s problem is the protracted nature of the Cyprus conflict. With the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus, both communities gained political status but because of the communal conflict, external and military interventions, secessionism and the sharing wrangle the problem has become complicated.

The Cyprus problem can be solved on the basis of; the 1960 agreements which created Republic of Cyprus, 1977-79 High Level Agreements coupled with the UN’s mission of good offices, political equality of the two communities, bi-zonal, bi-communal federal state which is a member of the EU. Waving away the existing prejudices and the nationalistic actions, increasing the contacts and opening more crossing points will be important steps taken towards a solution. The will for a solution should come from the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot communities. Thus for a settlement, common organisation and struggle is needed.

For the future of our island the two communities, it is imperative that a solution is found soon. The representatives of the both communities should stop blaming each other and come together at the negotiation table in cooperation to reach a solution. Chauvinist expressions, military exercises, nationalistic curriculum, national symbol fetishism and two separate economies are major elements hindering the rapprochement of the two communities.

Cyprus problem has created extraordinary living conditions on our island for a long time. During the prevailing political process, the Turkish Cypriot community is specially faced with economic, cultural and social assimilation. Turkish Cypriots are in the minority in their country due to the understanding of obedience to orders. Turkey following her military intervention on 1974 has physically divided the island into two and created “a subordinate state” on the North, dependent to her.

The mentality that does not trust the Turkish Cypriots, in contradiction to the Geneva Convention has transferred people to the island and changed the demographic structure. The created political system has diminished the productivity of the Turkish Cypriots and the assimilation is carried on in every manner. While Turkish Cypriots emigrate due to the economic and political difficulties, the policies to change the demographic structure of the island are continued.

In addition to the usual interventions during election times, Turkey is also intervening to the every day life due to the economic dependence on her and the transitional article No.10 of the constitution. All these developments are diminishing the political will, identity and the existence of the Turkish Cypriot community. Domination of the Turkish Cypriots political will is not acceptable. The relations between Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots should be handled on the bases of equals. Turkish Cypriot’s self rule is fundamental.

Within this context; we declare to the public that; we are determined to struggle on until we achieve our basic aims below and for this purpose we shall cooperate and combine our strength and actions as deemed necessary.

· To reclaim the political will of the Turkish Cypriots lost by the demographic change,

· To put an end to chauvinism, nationalism and the cultural, political and economical assimilation of the Turkish Cypriots,

· To resist the outside interferences and to achieve a democratic and transparent civilian authority based on the Turkish Cypriot’s will,

· By not wasting any time; to create a united, federal Cyprus solution to the Cyprus problem based on the will of the Turkish and Greek Cypriots.



CYPRUS PEACE PLATFORM

Cyprus Turkish Teachers’ Trade Union (KTÖS), Cyprus Turkish Secondary Education Teachers’ Trade Union (KTOEÖS), Cyprus Turkish Physicians Trade Union (Tıp-İş), Eastern Mediterranean University Unity and Solidarity Union (DAÜ-Bir-Sen), Cyprus EU Association (KAB), Communal Democracy Party (TDP), United Cyprus Party (BKP), New Cyprus Party (YKP), Cyprus Publisher’s Association (Kıb-Yay), State Workers Trade Union (Çağ-Sen).

03/02/08

Mr. Halil

I am sorry but I cannot inform you because I dont know the real issue more than what was mentioned in that statement. I usually move with YKP because I have very similar ideas with them but I am not a YKP member thus I do not involve in anything apart from demostrations and their newspaper. So I have no knowledge about their party politics.

[Get Real!]

Ok..what's an A :ASBO!

Anti-Social Behaviour Order.


First there was Pokemon for kids to collect and then Top Trumps and now ASBOs'

They’ve got something similar in Australia only they call them Abbos…

[zan]

Ok..what's an A :ASBO!

Anti-Social Behaviour Order.


First there was Pokemon for kids to collect and then Top Trumps and now ASBOs'

They’ve got something similar in Australia only they call them Abbos…

I like the fact that you are actually trying humour at last, because the last two days you have been a bit manic, but I am sure you can do better than that......Stop being so self conscious.....

[repulsewarrior]

zan, what is wrong with a National Assembly? what is wrong with one that is equal for Greeks then?

It is possible to have a State where as Individuals we can represent ourselves as a People, as this island's dwellers, it's steward, Cypriots; call it the United Federal Republic, have it's Official Language as English if we will.

whether as Persons, we identify ourselves as one "majority" or the other, the objective of our betterment as Humans is demonstrated by our inclusiveness, and our abilities to provide for the special needs of all kinds of people, as minorities. two (or three, or many) National Assemblies, will give us the power to sustain our communal heritance in this manner.

a strong central government will protect us if they do not.

Servng the will of all Cypriots, by Cypriots, strong and able to defend our Individual Rights will not be hard through a Bicameral Legislature where each elector votes exactly in the same manner, for three representatives as I have described in my Manifesto.

Bicommunal is anything but two governments which are exclusive, and mutually isolated from each other.

...just as Bizonal does not mean tearing the island in two.

What do YOU think with Halils post above from the: declaration from PEACE PLATFORM was as follows

i have already sent them my manifesto, zan. and i have been aware of their existence for about a year now...

will you give my question thought?

[Tim Drayton]

Vuryek, don't misunderstand me, I am not disuputing what you say about importing trade unions from Turkey, but this is the first time I have heard about such a development. Are you saying that Turkish Cypriots are now being encouraged/pressurised into leaving Turkish Cypriot trade unions and joining mainland Turkish unions instead? Can you provide any links to information about this (in Turkish or English)? If it is true, it is a worrying development, and eerily harks back to the campaign waged in the late fifties by the TMT to force Turkish Cypriot workers to leave PEO-affiliated trade unions, which cost the lives of people like Fazıl Önder. I only hope we do not see a repeat of such tactics.

Mr. Tim

Sorry for delay. I couldn't find any english links because of lack of free time. But I can post few Turkish links which I recorded before. I just checked them, they are still working.

It seems, you alredy solved the puzzle. Believe me, you explained everything better than I can. So no comment, with respect.

http://haber.turk724.net/113223/haberle ... B1ld%C4%B1

http://www.haberhavadis.com/Newsdetails.aspx?NID=19846

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php ... c_Haberler

http://haber.mynet.com/detay/ekonomi/Tu ... 08/N170511

Thanks for the links. It seems that for the time being the mainland Turkish trade union confederation "Türk-İş" has just opened a representational office in Cyprus. Do you think this is a first step, and eventually branches of mainland Turkish unions will be set up to rival local Turkish Cypriot trade unions?

[denizaksulu]

Ok..what's an A :ASBO!

Anti-Social Behaviour Order.


First there was Pokemon for kids to collect and then Top Trumps and now ASBOs'

They’ve got something similar in Australia only they call them Abbos…

I like the fact that you are actually trying humour at last, because the last two days you have been a bit manic, but I am sure you can do better than that......Stop being so self conscious.....

Zan, that is not humour at all. That is Ozzy racism oozing through his veins. I think he refers to the Aborigines. You are too kind Zan and you dont know it. Good morning btw.

[denizaksulu]

Correction NOT king. Should have been KIND.

Apologies to pretenders I better have my coffee.

[Bananiot]

Is YKP Alpay Durduran's party?