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[Nikitas]

Zan, your lack of knowledge of the Maronites is indicative of your attitude.

You know nothing about a community which has been in Cyprus at least since the 9th century. They contribute to the culture of the island and are among the most active people in philanthropic works.

Your approach to anything regarding Cyprus is a Turks first and only, and to hell with everyone else.

I see that neither you, nor VP, care about the "minority status" that the Annan plan granted the Maronites, Armenians, Latins and Gypsies of Cyprus. If you are uhnappy about minority status why is it OK for these communities to be officially declared minorities?

[zan]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Have the Marionites approached the TRNC government and discussed whether they are prepared to live under the TRNC government??? Perhaps they are waiting for a solution??? Things are not black and white...The social problems are not easy to work out!!!

Zan
just like VP you really have no clue about Maronites,do you?
Maronites already live in their own villages which happen to be in north Cyprus...

Zan
I am still waiting for a response to this.As always you are ignoring questions you have no answer.
Your limited /biased knowledge (or lack of it) on Cyprus issue is once more apparent with the Cypriot Maronites situation.

Didn't see it iceman but did YOU see the question marks in my post

I am sure you know everything about Cyprus so why don't you answer my questions instead of just trying to use one thing I don't know to say that I know nothing about Cyprus. I have provided links and examples for my arguments and have had no arguments to counter them that are good enough. I have found a lot of BS though. You seem to be happy to swallow it

Zan
You are not educated enough on the subject to either lecture me or question me on Cyprus issues.!!
My source is not google and i refuse to debate with anyone relying on just internet for their information.

So you learned a different way to the rest of us did you.....

[zan]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Have the Marionites approached the TRNC government and discussed whether they are prepared to live under the TRNC government??? Perhaps they are waiting for a solution??? Things are not black and white...The social problems are not easy to work out!!!

Zan
just like VP you really have no clue about Maronites,do you?
Maronites already live in their own villages which happen to be in north Cyprus...

Zan
I am still waiting for a response to this.As always you are ignoring questions you have no answer.
Your limited /biased knowledge (or lack of it) on Cyprus issue is once more apparent with the Cypriot Maronites situation.

Indeed , Zan's limited knowledge as regards the integral components that launched the detestable conflict amongst our Cypriot people , these components can be reduced down to one single element ."MOTHERLAND NONSENSE " He is besoted with ENOSIS, MAKARIOS , G/CS and with anything else that might interfere with his paranoid attachment to a foreign nation that is clearly one of the two major conflict instigators and currently the one occupying a part of our island. He refered to me , more than once as an assassin , a description that not only is utterly absurd but a proof , if one was needed , of his bitter and twisted outlook on the Cyprus issue. Like VP he abhores the fact that numericaly the G/Cs are greater , he detests the fact that in a free and united Cyprus he will count just as much as anyone else thus dispelling his dreams of returning to the "trnc" and enjoying the "spoils" of his impressive commitment to Turkey .
This is how much he knows about Cyprus and the Cypriot people. My views on the national anthem used by the ROC are very well known , my views on the hoisting of the Greek flag also well known , both activities , Im on record stating that , are anathematic to our struggle to reunite our island as one independent nation , yet Zan throws accusations at me that I want Cyprus exclusively Greek , that I want the Greek flag for Cyprus and that I'm dangerous to the T/C people.
Well he is blatantly wrong and pathetically in search of straw to clutch on .
He stated on this thread that while MILTIADES WANTS CYPRUS ONLY FOR THE GREEKS HE WANTS CYPRUS FOR ALL CYPRIOTS !!!!!!!!
He actually believes these absurd , ludicrous nonsense just as he believes all the other nonsensical statements he obtains from sites that state the G/Cs were butchering the T/Cs since 1922 !!!

I recently posted that from 1967 to 1974 not one single T/C became the victim of intercommunal conflict. Halil reminded me of the murdered T/Cs of November 1967 , in my post I should have made this clear and I fully accept the correction , however , none since then till the dreadful events of 1974 . We can live and work together but we must do so under the banner of Cyprus our natural motherland the country that gave birth to our fathers and their fathers , we are not foreigners on our island , we are CYPRIOTS.

Nice cover for YOUR lack of information as well old man.....You really are wetting yourself aren't you. The half truths you give about 67/74 are your way of telling us you know everything about Cyprus

[zan]

Zan, your lack of knowledge of the Maronites is indicative of your attitude.

You know nothing about a community which has been in Cyprus at least since the 9th century. They contribute to the culture of the island and are among the most active people in philanthropic works.

Your approach to anything regarding Cyprus is a Turks first and only, and to hell with everyone else.

I see that neither you, nor VP, care about the "minority status" that the Annan plan granted the Maronites, Armenians, Latins and Gypsies of Cyprus. If you are uhnappy about minority status why is it OK for these communities to be officially declared minorities?

What happened with your lack of knowledge about how funds are spent on arms from Russia the Nikitas....Does that take you out of the equation as well.....You guys smell blood and are acting like pathetic children. Totally lost in your own worlds as usual.

[zan]

Zan

lived in a foreign country because the GCs were starving us out. I had to put up with racism for most of that time along with my family. You guys seem to think we had it so easy in the UK. Your time might be here my friend but I have one last chance to say where my homeland is and am not about to lose that chance. One last chance to feel a part of the soil. One last chance to say I have a place of origin. The TRNC allows me that chance and it isn't until I thought about losing it that made me think how much it matters to me. Your age does not give you the right to give that away. Your age does not give you the right to cut me off from the little bit of Cyprus that is left in me. You simply have no right.

Nice Post Zan- Respect

I do not agree with a lot of your Politics but you are always true to your beliefs good night mate- work at early o clock for me

Good night mate!!!

You moved me to tears with that post,you rascal...
I think you are very lucky if the trnc gives you that sense of belonging we all crave...I am still waiting to find my place in the sun!

Dry your tears mate......I wish I where there to console you


I take what I can get from the TRNC......Just like I will not let the GCs take it away from me then I will not allow any one else. One thing is for sure, the "RoC" has not the tiniest bit of relevance for me. Only pain and sorrow. I have no other choice than the TRNC and to be frank I do not need another choice.

Zan...I think you got this post of mine wrong...I did not mean to mock your sentiments...You were so sincere and so heartfelt that I was literally moved to tears..I think it was the wink which misled you...I appologise,mate...

My apologies Bir...I saw red whilst being attacked by all yesterday and made a massive mistake. The wink did fool me but it shouldn't have.

Thank Bir....

[Tim Drayton]

So you learned a different way to the rest of us did you.....

Iceman EXPERIENCED these events in Limassol while you heard about them SECOND HAND growing up in Stoke Newington.

[zan]

So you learned a different way to the rest of us did you.....

Iceman EXPERIENCED these events in Limassol while you heard about them SECOND HAND growing up in Stoke Newington.

So did I....I have relatives in Cyprus if it has escaped your attention and we had blow by blow information. He probably saw a lot of things that where wrong in Cyprus at the time but the overall picture does not change. One mans experiences is not the whole story.

[Nikitas]

Zan, no one smells blood. Trying to point out that your take is often too narrow. The picture is bigger than presented here by you and VP.

[iceman]

So you learned a different way to the rest of us did you.....

Iceman EXPERIENCED these events in Limassol while you heard about them SECOND HAND growing up in Stoke Newington.

Thank you Tim...couldn't have put it better myself...
The experience thing applies to whole island not just Limassol...No substitute to living through times and learning at first hand..

[Tim Drayton]

The experience thing applies to whole island not just Limassol...

Maybe, but the best experiences are to be had in Limassol, for sure.