Cyprus-Forum.com

[Tim Drayton]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

No, but then Bananiot was already a regular poster here when I arrived, so it would hardly have been appropriate for me to have said that to him, would it?

[Raymanoff]

All "Graffiti Artists", regardless of the content they write should go to prison and pay the damages...

[Tim Drayton]

All "Graffiti Artists", regardless of the content they write should go to prison and pay the damages...

OK, but should they be charged with slandering the Turkish army for describing it as being an occupation force? This is a political case that goes way beyond a simple instance of vandalism.

[halil]

from my personal reserch about Maronites I found out below numbers for Maronites through out the world . Most of the figures came aut from the Maronites Churches sources .If you have more population places pls add them .

94 % of the Maronites are from Lebanese Descent. Over one million Maronites live in Lebanon.
There are 3,500,000 Maronites in the World.
Lebanon: 1,432,000
Syria: 46,100
Palestine: 7,500
Jordan: 1,000
Cyprus: 10,000
Egypt: 5,000
EUROPE: 71,500
• • France: 50,000
• • UK: 5,000
• • Germany: 5,000
• • Belgium: 3,000
• • Italy: 2,500
• • Sweden: 2,000
• • Switzerland: 2,000
• • Netherlands: 700
• • Spain: 700
• • Portugal: 200
• • Austria: 100
• • Luxembourg: 100
• • Norway: 100
• • Finland: 30
AFRICA: 40,000 Maronites
BRAZIL: 500,000 Maronites
MEXICO: 150,000
VENEZUELA: 25,000
ARGENTINA: 700,000
USA: 200,000
CANADA: 80,000
AUSTRALIA: 150,000

[zan]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Have the Marionites approached the TRNC government and discussed whether they are prepared to live under the TRNC government??? Perhaps they are waiting for a solution??? Things are not black and white...The social problems are not easy to work out!!!

Zan
just like VP you really have no clue about Maronites,do you?
Maronites already live in their own villages which happen to be in north Cyprus...

Zan
I am still waiting for a response to this.As always you are ignoring questions you have no answer.
Your limited /biased knowledge (or lack of it) on Cyprus issue is once more apparent with the Cypriot Maronites situation.

Didn't see it iceman but did YOU see the question marks in my post

I am sure you know everything about Cyprus so why don't you answer my questions instead of just trying to use one thing I don't know to say that I know nothing about Cyprus. I have provided links and examples for my arguments and have had no arguments to counter them that are good enough. I have found a lot of BS though. You seem to be happy to swallow it

[zan]

Zan can not feel comfortable in a real Cyprus because he knows that a real Cyprus is predominantly Greek in population, culture, religion, history and everything else, and this is somehting he can not accept. He can only feel comfortable in a fake kind of Cyprus which is artificially and by force made to resemble Turkey, ethnically cleansed from its native people, with its historical and cultural heritage destroyed, where the majority is made up by Alatolian Turks (Settlers + Army) who have absolutely nothing to do with our island.

Being a Cypriot means accepting Cyprus for what it really is, and not wanting to change it by force. Zan is not a Cypriot of any kind and that is why he could not live in a real free and democratic Cyprus.

OHH! The irony.....

[iceman]

Halil
From your research.Have you found any information regarding the Maronites taking sides in Cyprus issue?

[Raymanoff]

Tim Drayton, well its a 3rd world Muslim country ... what would you expect anyway.

[miltiades]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Have the Marionites approached the TRNC government and discussed whether they are prepared to live under the TRNC government??? Perhaps they are waiting for a solution??? Things are not black and white...The social problems are not easy to work out!!!

Zan
just like VP you really have no clue about Maronites,do you?
Maronites already live in their own villages which happen to be in north Cyprus...

Zan
I am still waiting for a response to this.As always you are ignoring questions you have no answer.
Your limited /biased knowledge (or lack of it) on Cyprus issue is once more apparent with the Cypriot Maronites situation.

Indeed , Zan's limited knowledge as regards the integral components that launched the detestable conflict amongst our Cypriot people , these components can be reduced down to one single element ."MOTHERLAND NONSENSE " He is besoted with ENOSIS, MAKARIOS , G/CS and with anything else that might interfere with his paranoid attachment to a foreign nation that is clearly one of the two major conflict instigators and currently the one occupying a part of our island. He refered to me , more than once as an assassin , a description that not only is utterly absurd but a proof , if one was needed , of his bitter and twisted outlook on the Cyprus issue. Like VP he abhores the fact that numericaly the G/Cs are greater , he detests the fact that in a free and united Cyprus he will count just as much as anyone else thus dispelling his dreams of returning to the "trnc" and enjoying the "spoils" of his impressive commitment to Turkey .
This is how much he knows about Cyprus and the Cypriot people. My views on the national anthem used by the ROC are very well known , my views on the hoisting of the Greek flag also well known , both activities , Im on record stating that , are anathematic to our struggle to reunite our island as one independent nation , yet Zan throws accusations at me that I want Cyprus exclusively Greek , that I want the Greek flag for Cyprus and that I'm dangerous to the T/C people.
Well he is blatantly wrong and pathetically in search of straw to clutch on .
He stated on this thread that while MILTIADES WANTS CYPRUS ONLY FOR THE GREEKS HE WANTS CYPRUS FOR ALL CYPRIOTS !!!!!!!!
He actually believes these absurd , ludicrous nonsense just as he believes all the other nonsensical statements he obtains from sites that state the G/Cs were butchering the T/Cs since 1922 !!!

I recently posted that from 1967 to 1974 not one single T/C became the victim of intercommunal conflict. Halil reminded me of the murdered T/Cs of November 1967 , in my post I should have made this clear and I fully accept the correction , however , none since then till the dreadful events of 1974 . We can live and work together but we must do so under the banner of Cyprus our natural motherland the country that gave birth to our fathers and their fathers , we are not foreigners on our island , we are CYPRIOTS.

[iceman]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Have the Marionites approached the TRNC government and discussed whether they are prepared to live under the TRNC government??? Perhaps they are waiting for a solution??? Things are not black and white...The social problems are not easy to work out!!!

Zan
just like VP you really have no clue about Maronites,do you?
Maronites already live in their own villages which happen to be in north Cyprus...

Zan
I am still waiting for a response to this.As always you are ignoring questions you have no answer.
Your limited /biased knowledge (or lack of it) on Cyprus issue is once more apparent with the Cypriot Maronites situation.

Didn't see it iceman but did YOU see the question marks in my post

I am sure you know everything about Cyprus so why don't you answer my questions instead of just trying to use one thing I don't know to say that I know nothing about Cyprus. I have provided links and examples for my arguments and have had no arguments to counter them that are good enough. I have found a lot of BS though. You seem to be happy to swallow it

Zan
You are not educated enough on the subject to either lecture me or question me on Cyprus issues.!!
My source is not google and i refuse to debate with anyone relying on just internet for their information.