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[miltiades]

Unfortunately for the GCs it is the "TC"s and Turkey that make the biggest noise. Not just from their sheer ever-expanding numbers; amounting to no less than 80 Million on our doorstep ever ready to strike and attempt to destroy us with their many tools, be they propaganda, bombs or strategically placed / infiltrated Turks masquerading as so called "TC"s.

We GCs are but the few, numbering less than a million, desperately hanging on to our morally right course, quietly negotiating and shifting our position to satisfy the ever hungry parasitic cuckoos in our midst that have brought NOTHING but Loud and Noisy destruction to our island since they made their slaughterhouse course upon our shores.

And Zan has the audacity to say they are only now being heard ... who did the British listen to all the time if not the Turks and "TC"s? They certainly did not listen to the GCs either when they wanted Enosis or self-determination. It did not matter what we asked for ... we were not heard ... only the ever-demanding Turk-TCs. And now they have what they always aimed for, our Island, occupied ...... still they cry MORE!

Really A while back you and your side kick GR wee saying that the brits were responsible for divide and rule .....At least be consistent with your lies Oracle...You are letting yourself down...Poor girlie!!!

I am consistent.

The "TC"s are the (noisy!) tools!

Really? Thanks

This was not the worst insult I have ever heard, but it is worse enough to enter the list.

There are still many real TC, if you dont want to hear them, just close your eyes and ears.

Soon you will see everything but none of them. Then you will realize what is Turk and what was TC.

Vuryek , I would not waste much time in responding to our " in- house resident " Professor of destructiveness and disparaging remarks who suffers from self delusions and actually believes that her contributions to the Cyprob debates are constructive , diplomatic in nature and righteous in essence !! Nothing could be further from reality , alas , she can not or does not want to comprehend.

[Viewpoint]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Who did the maronites side with?

[Viewpoint]

Where is your ancestery from? Go back 400 years and you will soon discover that like it or not you have a great deal in common with those Turks that you hate so much. We are all individuals and we have the right to declare with whom we feel we are more aligned, just like you have the right to say you are morr in line with GCs, you cannot deny me this right.





Im 46, and you?

Wow, I am 6 years old, grandpa. And I think you need a course about your anchestors.

First, lets talk about some demagogy. I am against Turkey's suppression, order and military. Did you see any word that insults to Turkish people? So don’t play with the words.

You want ancestors? Fine, so you can identify what is a Turk? This word accepted as an official term in 1929. You can search grandpa. My grandfather is really older than this terminology. So what is all these deal with Turkishness? Middle Asia syndrome? Lets solve it. Anthropologist Timuçin Binder, from İstanbul Teknik University, stated that “ancestors from Middle Asia” story is a myth. Only %10-%15 of people, who lives in Turkey, came from Middle Asia, there is no relation with Middle Asia. But still there is a problem because he also stated that there is no such Turkish gene, Oguz gene and he added “Turkishness a cultural description which we created, it is not a race. We invented that name and we named everybody as Turk but even Uygurs never named themselves as Turk.”

Not enough?
Another professor Ekrem Memiş from Afyon Kocatepe University, stated same thing, but he also have demanded to chance the historical identification of Turkishness.

Lets look to legal part.
Organic Laws of Turkey, Part 4 Article 6 says “Everybody who lives in Republic of Turkey is Turk”.
Does it really includes you?

“Turk” is an old word which has many synonimes like “Turki, Turko, Tarka…” and it was not official until 1929. For many years, many population used that name to identify some groups behavior. It was even an insult in Ottoman. (Disagree that and you cannot explain the effects which are created after Yıldırım Beyazıt’s war)

Some fanatic religionists believe that name “Turk” came with old testament but as you understand its just a speculation.

So what is Turk? Best identification is “a name of mixed cultures which take place of changing religionist culture of Ottoman Empire. So I know, of course you are Turks but I wonder according to which criteria. I am a Cypriot, because socially I carry Cypriot culture not Turkish culture, my family history is older than Ottoman history on this island and a government gave me id card, which is recognized internationally, which says I am a Cypriot. I have 3 of 3, what you have?

But don’t forget Ottoman is not equal to Turkey

So, we can continue with Ottoman history in Cyprus. Did you ever tired to read Haşmet Muzaffer Gürkan or Prof. Erdogru? Ottoman settled 20.000 janissary (yeniceri) , a group of soldiers created from non-Muslim children, and because of poverty in Cyprus, most of them escaped to other Ottoman lands such as Egypt, Lebanon or back to Anatolia. That means most of the Cypriot’s roots are older than Ottoman, not just mine. So please try to explain me how come you are Turk more than Cypriot? Please try to not to use demagogy.

And please learn to respect to knowledge and person, not age or views.

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Could someone translate? this person talks in riddles.

What age are you? were you not taught to return the favor once someone has revealed private info about themselves, or are you hidding something? like the fact that you may be a reinvented Kikapu.

[pantheman]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Bravo Vuyrak, you are one of the most unbiased posters I have met here.

Your postings make alot of sense and may I thank you for at least acknowledging the GC side.

Sadly, I have been poisoned by hatred by the likes of Zan and VP and a few others and I have turned bitter about the whole turkish existance, but you have shed a different light on this and I now realise I have been misguided by a bunch or PLONKERS.

Bravo and as Tim says, keep it up, you may just cure me.

@ZAN

You are a F idiot, you posts are full of shit, 99% of what you write is wishy-washy hairy fairy, has no substance or relevence or meaning. It seems to me you are posting for the sake of posting, you cry Enosis, Zurich agreement, EOKA over and over, FFS, chace the tune.
You have poisoned me and indeed many others, no GC in his right mind would want to live with you, and it would appear that you have more to loose than we do.
Take a lesson from our newcomer Vuyrak, maybe, just maybe you will feel better about all the bitterness you harbour, bacause you think you are the only hard done by one. On yer bike mate.

Miltiades, has sussed you, I can vouch for his consistancy of his postings and I understand fully what he says, I maynot always agree with him, but I know where he is coming from.

You, you don't want to understand because deep down you know that Milti has more TCs friends than you will ever have and that you cannot stomach. You claim you speak for the majority of TCs, I say utter bollocks and vuyrak is such proof. Zan, piss off and leave cyprus for the cypiots, we dont want motherfucker mainland turkish partitionists here. thank you.

Oh, and take your mate VP with you. good bye

[iceman]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Tim

Just asking so don't bite my head off...Have you said the same thing to Bananiot at any time??????

You want to be fair? Why dont you support other demostors who want to give Maronites, their homes back? If this is only a TC GC problem why they suffer because of us? If there "must "be a national seperation, why they havent got rights? They are already disappering because of this stupid problem. You want to really protect someone? Protect Maronites first, because they have taken the biggest damage.

Who did the maronites side with?

VP.....don't start on subjects you have no fucking clue!!
What do you know about Maronites? and who told you they ever sided with anyone?

[Viewpoint]

Why dont you do us all a favor and go to hell.

[pantheman]

Why dont you do us all a favor and go to hell.

awww, touchy, don't like to be put in your place and certainly not by one of your own.

You can do us and cyprus a favour, you go to hell and leave us cypriots in peace.

Oh and take Zombie and bananidiot with you.

[Viewpoint]

Why dont you do us all a favor and go to hell.

awww, touchy, don't like to be put in your place and certainly not by one of your own.

You can do us and cyprus a favour, you go to hell and leave us cypriots in peace.

Oh and take Zombie and bananidiot with you.

Looks like your avatar has had a nose bleed with your beloved "RoC", like it or not we will be around for a long time to come. You can leave us Turkish Cypriots alone and go to hell ho sorry you are there already.

[bill cobbett]

Vuryek,
You are a real breath of fresh air on this forum. Please keep your views coming.

Bravo Vuyrak, you are one of the most unbiased posters I have met here.

Your postings make alot of sense and may I thank you for at least acknowledging the GC side.

Sadly, I have been poisoned by hatred by the likes of Zan and VP and a few others and I have turned bitter about the whole turkish existance, but you have shed a different light on this and I now realise I have been misguided by a bunch or PLONKERS.

Bravo and as Tim says, keep it up, you may just cure me.

@ZAN

You are a F idiot, you posts are full of shit, 99% of what you write is wishy-washy hairy fairy, has no substance or relevence or meaning. It seems to me you are posting for the sake of posting, you cry Enosis, Zurich agreement, EOKA over and over, FFS, chace the tune.
You have poisoned me and indeed many others, no GC in his right mind would want to live with you, and it would appear that you have more to loose than we do.
Take a lesson from our newcomer Vuyrak, maybe, just maybe you will feel better about all the bitterness you harbour, bacause you think you are the only hard done by one. On yer bike mate.

Miltiades, has sussed you, I can vouch for his consistancy of his postings and I understand fully what he says, I maynot always agree with him, but I know where he is coming from.

You, you don't want to understand because deep down you know that Milti has more TCs friends than you will ever have and that you cannot stomach. You claim you speak for the majority of TCs, I say utter bollocks and vuyrak is such proof. Zan, piss off and leave cyprus for the cypiots, we dont want motherfucker mainland turkish partitionists here. thank you.

Oh, and take your mate VP with you. good bye

Brilliant.

(May I take the liberty of agreeing with P's and TD's post and if they'll allow me to say, that both, in their different ways, are gems of posts.)

[iceman]

Why dont you do us all a favor and go to hell.

What's the matter VP? Why do you want me to go to hell?
I thought we were talking about Maronites.
Tell us what you know about them and how they "sided" with the GC's..