zan wrote:Vuryek wrote:zan wrote:Vuryek wrote:Viewpoint wrote:VuryekFinancial support? You mean "to TRNC Economy"? That is real utopia. You can easily find answers to your every question but you need to want it first.
Objectively, a real economy and monetary politics defined with some descriptive rules and conditions. Without there rules and conditions, your system cannot be defined as an economy. Let me explain in more simple way. In North Cyprus we only consume! no real production, no real money! You can easily check financial tables of "TRNC" from web site of "devlet planlama". Statistically there is "518 cars for 1000 person" (it was statistics of 2006 I think but you can find it) which means at least one car for two person. This is a simple example of a bizarre wealth of a small population. What production we have to gain this kind of wealth where nearly %80 of population is "government officer". No, this is not a real economy and this is not a financial support. Truly, it is kind of feeding. Feeding up a to create a selfish population who doesn’t care about the future of their country. Turkey is feeding up Turkish Cypriots too keep them silent. There is no "TRNC" even for Turkey. Our future with Turkey can only be same with "Hatay" which was integrated, which means exactly TAXIM.
Real or not do we receive support from Turkey?
Its a simple question yet you talk in riddles to make excuses, how do you propose we turn our backs on Turkey and refuse this money? do you think the GCs economy will fill the void? wont you dependent on handouts? from a hostile and reluctant GC people? How will you guarantee that isolation will be lifted and how will not expose yourself to GC dominance and discrimination?
What is the alternative to Turkey? we are unable to stand our own 2 feet due to GC persistence of isoalation and you expect us to abandone our only ally and wait for GCs to open our path so that we may develop and support ourselves. Im sorry but you are being very naive and only jump out of the fat into the fire. Without concrete and clear undertakings from GCs TCs will not move one inch.
It was exact answer of your question. It was not riddles. Its because you dont want to read or understand. As I said, it is not a kind of support. It is just "feeding" the sheep until the butchery time. I am not naive, you are uneducated.
You talked so emotional about Turkey. So emotional as money as you said. Turkey can destroy your culture, your education, your humanity, your social structure, your whole country, and it is not your problem if you still get money! Believe me you cannot be a Cypriot more than this. Same as Talat and Ferdi.
If you want to learn how to stand on your feet, you have to learn how to work. If you are a "TRNC" officer dont talk even about that.
GC are hostile for you, and for other "money emotionals". Nobody said any unition can be take place in two days and we will live happyly ever after. We will allways struggle against uneducated people. You took all I said as 2 days process its because of you are naive. An uneducated people is not only speciality of North Cyprus, it is speciality of whole world.
Why GC are hostile? They are hostile because Denktash said? They are hostile because Turkey said? They are hostile because some idiots write a mytological books about Cyprus history? They are hostile because they have a gene that says "kill all Turks" in their biological structure? If they are hostile what areyou doing here? killing them by talking?
I had many bad experiences with GC, but it doest change my ideas because all population is not what I experienced.
Wake up, Turkey is not an ally, it will just continue to buy (support) you until you will dissapear. By the way how old are you?
So you think we are safe in GC hands do you You thnk that we will survive in the "RoC" with everything that is there as it is Greek. You are prepared to suffer under a Greek flag and sing the Greek national anthem and forget about your rights under the Zurich agreement that they ripped out of the hands of your ancestors. You think that we are responsible for all the torture we have gone though for over 40 years...Hade be senda......Nedir gonusduyun????
What are you expecting to get with such demagogy? I see that both your and VP’s comments are going through insult. Good. You are just closing the way of dialogue. What you said doesn’t change the reality, what I wrote, about Turkey. We haven’t got any future with Turkey, but we still have hope with GC. If you cannot tolerate to reality, just don’t read or don’t speak to not to show your level. It is easy to live in UK, or Australia and throw first class demagogy from there to here. You know what is happening to Aborigines? Just same things with what is happening to us.
Zurich agreement is not a criterion. We can create better with working together. We don’t need to smash on old stories, procedures, and agreements. We can create new ones. But if you think we cannot, just stay there and happily live ever after.
Because you are not answering direct questions put to you and you are contradicting yourself...Start talking in riddles and half truths and then expect nothing my friend.
I think it is clear, both you are narrow viewed, sorry but not me. You consider whole Cyprus history single sided, and lack of reality. It is not your fault, but you have to try to learn. You can just say "send me some books" instead of "yoru be isine" (means go off).
Recent time is not same with 1960 - 1974. We can try to give chance again. We can try to build a new thing, maybe completely independent from what you built before.