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[roseandchan]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

[zan]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

[DT.]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

[zan]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

Is that what happened when the British came to power and allowed thousands to stay in Cyprus from Greece????

[DT.]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

Is that what happened when the British came to power and allowed thousands to stay in Cyprus from Greece????

Would you like us to start gathering evidence of Turkish settlers vs your evidence of Greek settlers? I'm sure I can get a lot of my tc friends to help me out with this one Zan.

[zan]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

Is that what happened when the British came to power and allowed thousands to stay in Cyprus from Greece????

Would you like us to start gathering evidence of Turkish settlers vs your evidence of Greek settlers? I'm sure I can get a lot of my tc friends to help me out with this one Zan.

Are you saying that all GC are from Cyprus and can be traced back 4,000 years????

[DT.]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

Is that what happened when the British came to power and allowed thousands to stay in Cyprus from Greece????

Would you like us to start gathering evidence of Turkish settlers vs your evidence of Greek settlers? I'm sure I can get a lot of my tc friends to help me out with this one Zan.

Are you saying that all GC are from Cyprus and can be traced back 4,000 years????

I'm saying that your bigoted views are leading to Anatolian settlers outnumbering you in the occupied areas. Thankfully some of us have our dogs trained to sniff them out.

[DT.]

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Adopt ... EC1608.htm

European Council

Recommendation 1608 (2003)1

Colonisation by Turkish settlers of the occupied part of Cyprus

1. The Parliamentary Assembly expresses its deep disappointment at the failure of the negotiations under the aegis of the United Nations aimed at achieving a functional and viable solution to the Cyprus problem. It hopes, nevertheless, that the efforts will be resumed and continued until a sustainable settlement is found.

2. It is a well-established fact that the demographic structure of the island has been continuously modified since its de facto partition in 1974, as a result of the deliberate policies of the Turkish Cypriot administration and Turkey. Despite the lack of consensus on the exact figures, all parties concerned admit that Turkish nationals have since been systematically arriving in the northern part of the island. According to reliable estimates, their number currently totals 115 000.

3. The settlers come mainly from the region of Anatolia, one of the least developed regions of Turkey. Their customs and traditions differ significantly from those present in Cyprus. These differences are the main cause of the tensions and dissatisfaction of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population, who tend to view the settlers as a foreign element.

4. In particular, the Assembly expresses its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part of the island. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001. In consequence, the settlers outnumber the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population in the northern part.

5. In the light of the information available, the Assembly cannot accept the claims that the majority of arriving Turkish nationals are seasonal workers or former inhabitants who had left the island before 1974. Therefore it condemns the policy of “naturalisation” designed to encourage new arrivals which was introduced by the Turkish Cypriot administration with the full support of the Government of Turkey.

6. The Assembly is convinced that the presence of the settlers constitutes a process of hidden colonisation and an additional and important obstacle to a peaceful negotiated solution of the Cyprus problem.

7. Therefore, the Assembly recommends that the Committee of Ministers:

i. instruct the European Population Committee (CAHP) to conduct a population census of the whole island, in co-operation with the authorities concerned, in order to replace estimates with reliable data;

ii. promote the idea of the creation, with a contribution from the international community, of a fund which would ensure the financing of any voluntary returns of the Turkish settlers to Turkey;

iii. encourage the involvement of the Council of Europe Development Bank and call on the governments of Turkey and Cyprus to present concrete return projects for financing;

iv. call on Turkey, as well as its Turkish Cypriot subordinate local administration in northern Cyprus, to stop the process of colonisation by Turkish settlers and, in particular, call on the Turkish Cypriot administration to review their migration legislation and policies, and especially the law on naturalisation, with a view to revising them and, in consequence, bringing them into line with international standards;

v. call on Turkey to comply with the decisions of the European Court of Human Rights concerning refugees’ right to property in the occupied part of Cyprus;

vi. promote contacts and dialogue between the civil societies of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities

[zan]

its clear to me that both the tc's and the gc's want the turkish out of cyprus.
how are you going to decide who stays and who goes?
is it that only 5th generaton cypriots are true cypriots?
how many people were born in cyprus of turkish or even greek parents?
are you putting a date on it? say those who were here before 1974 can stay?
is this not another form of discriminaton ? ethnic cleansing?
is this a possible demand from a country in europe?

Them's the questions !!!!!! The GCs will use every trick in the book to deport as many TCs as they possibly can under that guise...

colonistion of an occupied country by the occupier with settlers is a war crime. Look it up.

Is that what happened when the British came to power and allowed thousands to stay in Cyprus from Greece????

Would you like us to start gathering evidence of Turkish settlers vs your evidence of Greek settlers? I'm sure I can get a lot of my tc friends to help me out with this one Zan.

Are you saying that all GC are from Cyprus and can be traced back 4,000 years????

I'm saying that your bigoted views are leading to Anatolian settlers outnumbering you in the occupied areas. Thankfully some of us have our dogs trained to sniff them out.

How many GCs are from the original GCs of 4,000 years ago was the question DT. You were outnumbered years ago....What happened then....Did you use to watch Jackanory when you were young because you like telling stories to scare the kids!!!

[DT.]

Here it is again. Would you like to name an organisation cause I can probably dig one up on request.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/AdoptedText/TA03/EREC1608.htm

European Council

Recommendation 1608 (2003)1

Colonisation by Turkish settlers of the occupied part of Cyprus

1. The Parliamentary Assembly expresses its deep disappointment at the failure of the negotiations under the aegis of the United Nations aimed at achieving a functional and viable solution to the Cyprus problem. It hopes, nevertheless, that the efforts will be resumed and continued until a sustainable settlement is found.

2. It is a well-established fact that the demographic structure of the island has been continuously modified since its de facto partition in 1974, as a result of the deliberate policies of the Turkish Cypriot administration and Turkey. Despite the lack of consensus on the exact figures, all parties concerned admit that Turkish nationals have since been systematically arriving in the northern part of the island. According to reliable estimates, their number currently totals 115 000.

3. The settlers come mainly from the region of Anatolia, one of the least developed regions of Turkey. Their customs and traditions differ significantly from those present in Cyprus. These differences are the main cause of the tensions and dissatisfaction of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population, who tend to view the settlers as a foreign element.

4. In particular, the Assembly expresses its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part of the island. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001. In consequence, the settlers outnumber the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population in the northern part.

5. In the light of the information available, the Assembly cannot accept the claims that the majority of arriving Turkish nationals are seasonal workers or former inhabitants who had left the island before 1974. Therefore it condemns the policy of “naturalisation” designed to encourage new arrivals which was introduced by the Turkish Cypriot administration with the full support of the Government of Turkey.

6. The Assembly is convinced that the presence of the settlers constitutes a process of hidden colonisation and an additional and important obstacle to a peaceful negotiated solution of the Cyprus problem.

7. Therefore, the Assembly recommends that the Committee of Ministers:

i. instruct the European Population Committee (CAHP) to conduct a population census of the whole island, in co-operation with the authorities concerned, in order to replace estimates with reliable data;

ii. promote the idea of the creation, with a contribution from the international community, of a fund which would ensure the financing of any voluntary returns of the Turkish settlers to Turkey;

iii. encourage the involvement of the Council of Europe Development Bank and call on the governments of Turkey and Cyprus to present concrete return projects for financing;

iv. call on Turkey, as well as its Turkish Cypriot subordinate local administration in northern Cyprus, to stop the process of colonisation by Turkish settlers and, in particular, call on the Turkish Cypriot administration to review their migration legislation and policies, and especially the law on naturalisation, with a view to revising them and, in consequence, bringing them into line with international standards;

v. call on Turkey to comply with the decisions of the European Court of Human Rights concerning refugees’ right to property in the occupied part of Cyprus;

vi. promote contacts and dialogue between the civil societies of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities