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Education and the Cyprus Problem

Postby utu » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:20 pm

I was looking in on the ATCA site, and this article from the Cyprus Mail caught my attention:

Cyprus Mail 6 September, 2008

To rewrite history, you need to rewrite the history books.

SURELY you should be applauding us, AKEL deputy Takis Hadjigeorgiou meekly pleaded yesterday in the face of the vicious onslaught against his government’s efforts to foster a climate of reconciliation and co-operation in schools in the hope of preparing the ground for a reunited Cyprus.

He’s quite right, we should be applauding the Education Minister. His aims are not just worthy, they are absolutely critical if we are the slightest bit serious about ever wanting to live side by side with the Turkish Cypriots in a reunited Cyprus – a broad aim for which there is supposedly consensus across the political spectrum, irrespective of the form that reunification might take.

First it was the teachers, worried about the bicommunal activities suggested in the circular: what if a school in the north invited them, and teachers and pupils refused to cross? Next thing, they’ll be asking us to refer to the Turkish Cypriots as our brothers, one outraged headmaster told this paper.

And then the political bandwagon swung into action, particularly outraged at the fact that the history books would be rewritten. We would be emasculating our identity thundered one DISY deputy, reminding the minister that he was not the Education Minister of the occupied areas or of rapprochement. The reforms suggested that our education system until now was chauvinistic, piped in an outraged DIKO deputy.

Well, yes… Let’s take a look at the History of Cyprus, the textbook taught in the first year of state secondary schools: the brutal intercommunal fighting of 1963-64, after Makarios tore up the 1960 Constitution, is headlined as “The Turkish revolt”, which saw the Turkish Cypriots unilaterally pull out of government and force their population into enclaves, from which Greek Cypriots were barred.

Then in the summer of 1964, the Turkish air force bombed Tylliria and Turkey threatened to invade. Out of the blue. Just like that. As they do… There is not a single mention of the vicious civil war that raged between December 1963 and the summer of 1964, an event as traumatic to the Turkish Cypriot community as 1974 to the Greeks.

If we think this is the kind of history that we ought to be teaching our children, then we should forget about reunification. If we think that an education that encourages children to drape themselves in the Greek flag and go out on nationalist political demonstrations during school hours is not chauvinist, then what are we doing even talking to the Turkish Cypriots?

Yes, our schools have actively bred the worst kind of chauvinism. Yes, it must be changed. But are we willing to make that change, and can it be effective overnight? The government is facing a very steep uphill struggle.


What do the folk on this forum say about the education question raised here?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:29 am

I'm not surprised at Greek Cypriot educators balking at such 'horrid' prospects of educating Greek Cypriot children things like Turkish Cypriots being human beings and fellow citizens... The best way to continue hatred is to brainwash subsequent generations...
BTW, nice to see you looking at the ATCA site, Utu...
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:41 am

Expatkiwi wrote:I'm not surprised at Greek Cypriot educators balking at such 'horrid' prospects of educating Greek Cypriot children things like Turkish Cypriots being human beings and fellow citizens... The best way to continue hatred is to brainwash subsequent generations...
BTW, nice to see you looking at the ATCA site, Utu...


He spends the first part talking about the brainwashing of GC's and how we consider the TC's inhuman...and then goes on to congratulate the other guy for being on the ATCA site :lol: :lol:

This made my day! :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:49 am

DT. wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I'm not surprised at Greek Cypriot educators balking at such 'horrid' prospects of educating Greek Cypriot children things like Turkish Cypriots being human beings and fellow citizens... The best way to continue hatred is to brainwash subsequent generations...
BTW, nice to see you looking at the ATCA site, Utu...


He spends the first part talking about the brainwashing of GC's and how we consider the TC's inhuman...and then goes on to congratulate the other guy for being on the ATCA site :lol: :lol:

This made my day! :lol:


What that mirror image of the GCs on this Forum....Pot and black.... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:07 am

Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:09 am

DT. wrote:Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?


You mean to tell me that all this time you have been condemning something you do not know about....Even after Halil posted all the information... :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:14 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?


You mean to tell me that all this time you have been condemning something you do not know about....Even after Halil posted all the information... :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:


Halil provided the link to a few Turkish publications. I can't speak Turkish.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:22 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?


You mean to tell me that all this time you have been condemning something you do not know about....Even after Halil posted all the information... :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:


Halil provided the link to a few Turkish publications. I can't speak Turkish.


I believe his explanation was more extensive than that...Perhaps you should meet up with him again and have him tell you in person. Even Miltiades has been taken to TC schools and had his eyes opened.
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:31 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?


You mean to tell me that all this time you have been condemning something you do not know about....Even after Halil posted all the information... :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:


Halil provided the link to a few Turkish publications. I can't speak Turkish.


I believe his explanation was more extensive than that...Perhaps you should meet up with him again and have him tell you in person. Even Miltiades has been taken to TC schools and had his eyes opened.


I'm all ears Zan....tell me all about it.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:50 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Could Expatkiwi please inform us of the progressive change in curriculum being adapted in the occupied areas?

What do you teach your children about 1974?


You mean to tell me that all this time you have been condemning something you do not know about....Even after Halil posted all the information... :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:


Halil provided the link to a few Turkish publications. I can't speak Turkish.


I believe his explanation was more extensive than that...Perhaps you should meet up with him again and have him tell you in person. Even Miltiades has been taken to TC schools and had his eyes opened.


I'm all ears Zan....tell me all about it.


What?? :?
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