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Postby zan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:56 pm

Russia and and the "RoC" will have to do better than this.....They didn't get the response from Turkey that they wanted so they have to let the news out anyway...Nice try guys!!!!



Russia rules out recognizing northern Cyprus

The Associated PressPublished: September 8, 2008


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NICOSIA, Cyprus: A Russian envoy is ruling out recognizing Cyprus' breakaway Turkish Cypriot north.

Senior foreign ministry official Alexander Alekseev says Cyprus' ethnic division "differs completely" from circumstances that prompted Russia to recognize the separatist Georgian republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Alekseev says Moscow's policy toward Cyprus hasn't changed. He says Moscow was "forced" to recognize the provinces in response to Georgian military aggression.

He made the remarks Monday after talks with Cyprus Foreign Minister Markos Kyprianou.

Cyprus was split in 1974 when Turkey invaded in response to a coup aimed at uniting the island with Greece.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:46 pm

good no one will ever recognise trnc ...
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:47 pm

paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........
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Postby utu » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:51 am

zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........


Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:24 am

utu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........


Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...


Another screw up will see ALL the TCS unite and demand their rights utu
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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:21 am

Turks keep dreaming that they they will recognize that OUR island belongs to them. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are dreaming for so long I think you are in a coma!! :shock: I see this talks failing because the Turks insist on stealing our lands and NOBODY will recognize you after because it is your fault that there is a problem in Cyprus . It is you who illegally occupy Cyprus and made that pseudo state illegally.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:05 am

utu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........


Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Utu , the AP was rejected because it was not only flawed as you say but it was interpreted by the people as not a unifying plan , on the contrary it was a plan that recognised the permanent partition of our island into a Greek and Turkish section. The Plan was devised entirely based on Turkeys requirements , the people of Cyprus responded accordingly.
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:17 am

utu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........


Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...


Utu, thats not what Putin said. Putin reminded everyone when it came to Kosovo being recognised he said Northern Cyprus has not been recognised for 40 years, why are the europeans asking for double standards now?
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Postby roseandchan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:27 am

protecting all of their russian citizen's interests in the south i guess. in the north we don't have many russian. i even know a tc who was selling his house who refused to sell it to a russian.they are not exactly welcome here.

the russian goverment has made some serious mistakes recently, this just shows how stupid they are. international money is leaving russia daily, their currency is taking a tumble, along with investment. it just shows what the democratic world thinks of them.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:29 am

miltiades wrote:
utu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:good no one will ever recognise trnc ...


Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........


Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Utu , the AP was rejected because it was not only flawed as you say but it was interpreted by the people as not a unifying plan , on the contrary it was a plan that recognised the permanent partition of our island into a Greek and Turkish section. The Plan was devised entirely based on Turkeys requirements , the people of Cyprus responded accordingly.



Tpap was present, 300 Cypriot lawyers were present and the hundreds of UN mediators were present but it was all done in Turkeys favour.......You gotta be kidding me. And this guy claims that I distort facts :lol: :lol: :lol: What the AP failed to do was hand TPap the island...A dream he has had since the beginning of time. The hero that would hand Cyprus back to Greece and have his name in history for ever.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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