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[DT.]

protecting all of their russian citizen's interests in the south i guess. in the north we don't have many russian. i even know a tc who was selling his house who refused to sell it to a russian.they are not exactly welcome here.

the russian goverment has made some serious mistakes recently, this just shows how stupid they are. international money is leaving russia daily, their currency is taking a tumble, along with investment. it just shows what the democratic world thinks of them.

Don't confuse a short term fall in commodity prices with disaster for a 1.3 trillion dollar economy.

[miltiades]

good no one will ever recognise trnc ...

Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........

Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Utu , the AP was rejected because it was not only flawed as you say but it was interpreted by the people as not a unifying plan , on the contrary it was a plan that recognised the permanent partition of our island into a Greek and Turkish section. The Plan was devised entirely based on Turkeys requirements , the people of Cyprus responded accordingly.

Tpap was present, 300 Cypriot lawyers were present and the hundreds of UN mediators were present but it was all done in Turkeys favour.......You gotta be kidding me. And this guy claims that I distort facts What the AP failed to do was hand TPap the island...A dream he has had since the beginning of time. The hero that would hand Cyprus back to Greece and have his name in history for ever....

Having 50% of our Cypriot Police stations flying the Greek flag and 50% flying the Turkish flag wasnt exactly a sign of a united Cyprus was it mate.
Having roads belonging exclusively to G/Cs and T/Cs wasnt exactly a ROAD to a unified Cyprus was it mate.
Giving Turkey the legal right to intervene in any part of Cyprus , EU territory , wasnt exactly a satisfactory solution for the overwhelming majority of Cypriots .
These and more were the reasons I along with the majority rejected . ( I did not vote )
As far as my new character ASSASSINATION !! by Zan the Hate Master all I can say what an ASS of a Plonker !!
So if Im an Assassin , then this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are WRONG about all that you post . Have to make sure that my new title does not destruct me from my continued work in building little tiny bridges amongst our people -excluding the Gray Wolves and EOKAB

[zan]

good no one will ever recognise trnc ...

Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........

Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Utu , the AP was rejected because it was not only flawed as you say but it was interpreted by the people as not a unifying plan , on the contrary it was a plan that recognised the permanent partition of our island into a Greek and Turkish section. The Plan was devised entirely based on Turkeys requirements , the people of Cyprus responded accordingly.

Tpap was present, 300 Cypriot lawyers were present and the hundreds of UN mediators were present but it was all done in Turkeys favour.......You gotta be kidding me. And this guy claims that I distort facts What the AP failed to do was hand TPap the island...A dream he has had since the beginning of time. The hero that would hand Cyprus back to Greece and have his name in history for ever....

Having 50% of our Cypriot Police stations flying the Greek flag and 50% flying the Turkish flag wasnt exactly a sign of a united Cyprus was it mate.
Having roads belonging exclusively to G/Cs and T/Cs wasnt exactly a ROAD to a unified Cyprus was it mate.
Giving Turkey the legal right to intervene in any part of Cyprus , EU territory , wasnt exactly a satisfactory solution for the overwhelming majority of Cypriots .
These and more were the reasons I along with the majority rejected . ( I did not vote )
As far as my new character ASSASSINATION !! by Zan the Hate Master all I can say what an ASS of a Plonker !!
So if Im an Assassin , then this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are WRONG about all that you post . Have to make sure that my new title does not destruct me from my continued work in building little tiny bridges amongst our people -excluding the Gray Wolves and EOKAB

Did you read the list of people that were there....Why didn't the great Tpap, quoted as the best legal brain in the world, pull something out of his hat and make a better deal...Because he didn't want to thats why.....Because on the other side he was preparing to sabotage the whole affair and because he knew that the EU were going to let him into the club. Hev worked only to secure a Greek island and to hand that island to Greece and sod the TCs. He is still doing the same. He believes what you believe...That the TCs will have to lump what you want or leave the island. Nice one Miltiades Makarios.....

[paliometoxo]

good no one will ever recognise trnc ...

Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........

Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Another screw up will see ALL the TCS unite and demand their rights utu

how many ts are actually left? like 1? lol most of are turks in the north.. plus if trnc is recognised officially the armywill have to pull back to less then 30% of the island.. which is nothing all you turks would be squashed in the north...

your dreaming if you think trnc will ever be recognised though, its you turks that deman unthinkable things then say we screw it up? its you people that screw it up demanding stupid things...

[zan]

good no one will ever recognise trnc ...

Screw up these talks and we shall see mate........

Paliometoxo, Zan may have a point. The recognition by Russia and Nicaragua of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has - in effect - opened up the prospect of a number of unrecognized entities being formally recognized without waiting for UN sanction. Even though Russia has stated that they have not changed their policy on the northern administration in Cyprus, Vladimir Putin did say earlier this year (and I quote):"The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a better case for recognition than Kosovo". The use of the north's formal title is in itself a rather telling point.
A lot is going to hinge on the outcome of these talks. If something is worked out by both Kristofas and Talat and it goes to referendum, how the communities vote could very well affect the recognition issue. The Greek Cypriots gave themselves a black eye internationally when the Annan Plan was rejected. It didn't matter that the plan was flawed; it was perceived that the Greek Cypriots did not want reconciliation. If that prospect repeats itself, well...

Another screw up will see ALL the TCS unite and demand their rights utu

how many ts are actually left? like 1? lol most of are turks in the north.. plus if trnc is recognised officially the armywill have to pull back to less then 30% of the island.. which is nothing all you turks would be squashed in the north...

your dreaming if you think trnc will ever be recognised though, its you turks that deman unthinkable things then say we screw it up? its you people that screw it up demanding stupid things...

I meant in the TRNC and around the world mate....I think we will accept 30% for recognition anyway so thank you...Kifeas will be after your blood now

[Nikitas]

This is a funny thread.

What is the difference between BBF and what there is today? In any case it is clear that the Turkish intention is to establish this BBF thing as a springboard to secession and recognition anyway. The TCs might not like the plan but they will lump it as they have done with so many other things dished out by the Turks.

[zan]

This is a funny thread.

What is the difference between BBF and what there is today? In any case it is clear that the Turkish intention is to establish this BBF thing as a springboard to secession and recognition anyway. The TCs might not like the plan but they will lump it as they have done with so many other things dished out by the Turks.

Poor GCs...You wallow in successes and riches of our island and keep us from doing the same and you have to lump one little thing and cry about it.....

[GeorgeV97qaue]

This is a funny thread.

What is the difference between BBF and what there is today? In any case it is clear that the Turkish intention is to establish this BBF thing as a springboard to secession and recognition anyway. The TCs might not like the plan but they will lump it as they have done with so many other things dished out by the Turks.

Poor GCs...You wallow in successes and riches of our island and keep us from doing the same and you have to lump one little thing and cry about it.....

Zan I see you are back spouting your crap as usual. Let's face it Annan was the Turks bitch back in 2004. He gave you guy's everything and then expected us to agree to a plan that we were expected to compensate ourselves. Do you think the Greeks are stupid?

The best way forward would be to make the land adjustments as per the Annan plan let all refugees return north and south of the border if they want to no restrictions nothing. Send back half the turks who live here illegaly. If refugees dont want to live under turkish or greek adminastration then they are compensated by either the greek or turkish adminatration . Turkish/ Greek troops return to the mainlands and a Cypriot army is born half TC & half GC.

What do you think of that?

[DT.]

This is a funny thread.

What is the difference between BBF and what there is today? In any case it is clear that the Turkish intention is to establish this BBF thing as a springboard to secession and recognition anyway. The TCs might not like the plan but they will lump it as they have done with so many other things dished out by the Turks.

Poor GCs...You wallow in successes and riches of our island and keep us from doing the same and you have to lump one little thing and cry about it.....

Zan I see you are back spouting your crap as usual. Let's face it Annan was the Turks bitch back in 2004. He gave you guy's everything and then expected us to agree to a plan that we were expected to compensate ourselves. Do you think the Greeks are stupid?

The best way forward would be to make the land adjustments as per the Annan plan let all refugees return north and south of the border if they want to no restrictions nothing. Send back half the turks who live here illegaly. If refugees dont want to live under turkish or greek adminastration then they are compensated by either the greek or turkish adminatration . Turkish/ Greek troops return to the mainlands and a Cypriot army is born half TC & half GC.

What do you think of that?

not a very thought out plan George.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Why not DT we are not going to get any more from the Turks.

What do you see as the problem mate?